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Any NJ food as good as Manhattan?

11 posts · Mar 16, 1994 to Apr 15, 1994

George F.Sumitomo Bank Capital MarketsMar 16, 1994
In article  [email removed] (Phil
Fischer) writes:

> Gary D. wrote:
> >
> >I'm at Bell Labs in Murray Hill, NJ for a conference at some point and
> >although I'd prefer to eat in Manhattan, I might be too wiped to get
> >back into Gotham with guests plus having a rental car will be a 2-ton
> >weight around my neck ... if I'm stuck out there, is there anything
> >that New York City tastes can recommend in NJ? )-;
> >
>
> No.
>
> Phil

Well, that's a highly informative and helpful reply to this inquery. ;-) But seriously...

I know of one place that approaches NYC calaber: Khiva's on the Barge. They server Mongolian barbeque and tasty appetizers. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Mongolian barbeque, you fill a large bowl with your selection of meats, vegetables, and sauces (like a salad bar). The cook then stir-fries it together on top of a large, flat grill. The result is fabulous, and cannot be compared to common Chinese food.

It's located on the Hackensack River in E. Rutherford, near Giants Stadium. I don't recall the exact address, but it is located next to a golf driving range. Call to get directions.

Zagat has a Tri-State edition of their restaurant guide that covers northern New Jersey. Check it out!
AnonymousUniversity of AlaskaMar 16, 1994
Gary D. wrote:
>
> I'm at Bell Labs in Murray Hill, NJ for a conference at some point and
> although I'd prefer to eat in Manhattan, I might be too wiped to get
> back into Gotham with guests plus having a rental car will be a 2-ton
> weight around my neck ... if I'm stuck out there, is there anything
> that New York City tastes can recommend in NJ? )-;
>
> Please save me from Bennigan's Hell ...
>
> gld
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      Being from Alaska I'll admit that I don't know much about
restaurants in New York OR New Jersey but whenever I visit my brother in New York the one restaurant we ALWAYS hit is Arthurs in NJ. They have a wonderful steak and blue cheese salad.  Nothing I've ever had compares to it.  Great prices too.  But be prepared for a crowd.  The three times I've gone the place has always been packed to the gills.
--Karla
Eric S.Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyMar 17, 1994
Someone wrote:

>     Being from Alaska I'll admit that I don't know much about
>restaurants in New York OR New Jersey but whenever I visit my brother
>in New York the one restaurant we ALWAYS hit is Arthurs in NJ.
>They have a wonderful steak and blue cheese salad.  Nothing I've
>ever had compares to it.  Great prices too.  But be prepared for
>a crowd.  The three times I've gone the place has always been packed
>to the gills.
>--Karla

      I'll have to second this suggestion...Arthurs doesn't offer much
on it's menu, but the steaks (24 & 48 oz.!!) are the best I've ever had. Their consistancy isn't always great on the cuts.  I've had a couple of mediocre ones, but mediocre there is still better than anywhere else I've eaten.  Their fillet of sole is also nice, as is their Choc. Mousse Pie.  The portions are big and the prices are low.
      Arthurs is located on Speedwell Ave., in Morris Plains, NJ (near
Morristown).

            -Eric
CHARLES Y.Delphi ( email, 800-695-4005 voice)Mar 17, 1994
I don't know were Murry Hill is but the Manor in West Orange is 4 star and has won many awards. the same people also run the Highlawn Pavilion in West Orange And the food is good and the View of New York is fantastic. I have also heard good things about the Hilton in short hills and almost anything in the Iron bound section of Newark is worth the trip. they are all Portugese and spanish and well worth the trip. Iberian Peninsula, tony De Caneca [Cjust to name a few.
David M.Morgan Stanley - ISMar 18, 1994
George F. wrote:
Gary D. wrote:
|> > >I'm at Bell Labs in Murray Hill, NJ for a conference at some point and
|> > >although I'd prefer to eat in Manhattan, I might be too wiped to get
|> > >back into Gotham with guests plus having a rental car will be a 2-ton
|> > >weight around my neck ... if I'm stuck out there, is there anything
|> > >that New York City tastes can recommend in NJ? )-;

|> I know of one place that approaches NYC calaber: Khiva's on the
|> Barge.....
|>
|> It's located on the Hackensack River in E. Rutherford, near Giants
|> Stadium. I don't recall the exact address, but it is located next to a
|> golf driving range. Call to get directions.
|>

Well, that's ok, but there is another location of that same restaurant about 10 minutes from Murray Hill, in the center of Morristown. It's right on Main St. (Rt24 (old)), just East of the center of town/ park.

Same food, without the nightmarish drive from Murray Hill to Rutherford.

-Dave

PS: Many very good restaurants in Chatham, Madison and Morristown along old Rt. 24.  A good thai place is Sukothai, on Rt. 22 (just behind the labs) and about 20 minutes West.

Good pizza in Chatham/Madison at Italian Village in the Channel plaza (normal, cheap eats).

Very high class food at the Short Hills Hilton (across from the Short Hills mall, ~10 minutes from the labs), and at the Black Orchid, in the Headquarters plaza hotel, downtown Morristown.

Also, Chand Palace, also old 24, in Morristown, has very good indian food.  Right next door is a good afgan place.  Across the street is a nice Italian place and 2 good Japanese (is Ai still on the second floor there?)

By the way, you can park your car in Madison in the evenings for free, and take a train that takes ~50 minutes to get you to 33rd st or WTC.  Many times faster than driving, not too expensive.

Send me mail if you want more places; I live near here and eat in this area often.  I am often in NYC until 6pm and come back to this area for dinner instead of eating in the city.  Usually much less expensive and equivalent food, if you choose the right place.

BTW, I think Khiva is pretty overrated, but some people really like it.  It was a pretty hot place a few years back.
Susan G.Dun & BradstreetMar 19, 1994
>DATE:   Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:39:02 GMT
>FROM:   Phil Fischer
>
>Gary D. wrote:
>>
>>I'm at Bell Labs in Murray Hill, NJ for a conference at some point and
>>although I'd prefer to eat in Manhattan, I might be too wiped to get
>>back into Gotham with guests plus having a rental car will be a 2-ton
>>weight around my neck ... if I'm stuck out there, is there anything
>>that New York City tastes can recommend in NJ? )-;
>>
>
>No.
>
>Phil

Try Chez Catherine in Westfield, NJ.  It's very very good, close to what you'd expect in NYC.  Dinners include appetizer, salad, entree, and dessert, and are in the $40 range. There is no a la carte pricing but lots of selections.  Full liquor license and wine list.   It's about a 20 min ride from Murray Hill.

For a longer ride, The Ryland Inn in Whitehouse has excellent food, but it's close to an hour from MH.  (The chef was the sous-chef at Bouley for a bit.)

If there are any Japanese tastes, Shogun on Route 22 in Green Brook is quite good.  Don't be put off by the pick-up trucks in front and the tacky name.  There's a cocktail lounge on one side of the building.

The Stage House in Scotch Plains was pretty good, but the food was a little oversalted for my taste.

Phil has a point, though.

Susan G.

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Lafayette J.Lafayette CollegeMar 20, 1994
Susan G. wrote:
>>DATE:   Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:39:02 GMT
>>FROM:   Phil Fischer
>>
>>Gary D. wrote:
>>>
>For a longer ride, The Ryland Inn in Whitehouse has excellent food, but
>it's close to an hour from MH.  (The chef was the sous-chef at Bouley
>for a bit.)
>
>
>Susan G.
>
Someone gave you a bum routing.  One hour at the speed limit going due west on Interstate 78 will take you across the Delaware River to Pennsylvania.  Whitehouse is about half-way between Pennsylvania and Murray Hill.  Ought to be able to make it comfortably by car in a half-hour.

                                     Bill Jeffers
                                     Easton, PA
Steve M.Manes Associates, NYCMar 21, 1994
Someone wrote:
: If there are any Japanese tastes, Shogun on Route 22 in Green Brook : is quite good.  Don't be put off by the pick-up trucks in front and the : tacky name.  There's a cocktail lounge on one side of the building.

I've heard that the sushi restaurant at Yohan plaza in Edgewater, NJ is pretty good too.  Yohan is a pretty interesting place to visit, period. I lived in Japan as a kid and this place threw me back in time to the Japanese supermarkets my mom used to drag me through.

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John L.I.E.C.C., Cambridge, Mass.Mar 22, 1994
For those who venture a little farther south, the Green Gables Inn in Beach Haven on Long Beach Island has terrific food, despite being within a block of the beach.  It's set price, set menu each day: three small courses, a large course, and dessert.  Open all week in the summer, weekends out of season, it's also a B&B so you can stay there although since I have a cottage nearby I haven't.

True story:  about the third time we went, we went with two friends who hadn't been there before.  For the third course they brought my wife and me one thing, the friends something else.

"Aren't we all supposed to have the same thing?"

"Oh, no, we gave you that when you were here last month."

Regards,
John Levine, [email removed], [email removed], [email removed]
Gary D.The Bloomingdale Insane Asylum (now Columbia University)Apr 5, 1994
>I'm at Bell Labs in Murray Hill, NJ for a conference at some point
>and although I'd prefer to eat in Manhattan, I might be too wiped ...

Thanks to everyone who replied to my original enquiry a couple of weeks ago ... I'm sure that many others took advantage of your advice as well as me.  In the end, I took this recommendation from Helena Robinson (it helped that these places were close to where I was, for my first (arrival) and final (departing) nights):

  Here are some less expensive places to consider.  All are on
  Springfield Ave. in Berkeley Heights, just a few minutes (less
  than 20) from the Summit train station:

  Neelam (Indian)
  Azteca (Mexican)
  Hunan (Chinese)
  Suisha (Japanese)
  Heights Cafe (Eclectic ...

  Azteca and Suisha are in the same building, and Hunan is across
  the street.

Suisha was on par to what I had in San Francisco's Japantown a few weeks earlier, among them Mifune.  Neelam had a great lunch buffet that kept me filled for the whole day, right through to catching my flight.

However, I did make it to Manhattan in-between (the traffic outside the Holland Tunnel in *midweek* was unreal!) ... thanks, Helena!

gld
David B.Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.Apr 15, 1994
   Here in New Brunswick, we have both _The Frog and The Peach_ and
StageLeft which serve excellent food (better quality/$ than I can afford in Manhattan).    Within the last decade there's been an tremendous increase in the number of upscale New Brunswick restaurants.  While I haven't sampled them all, hearsay and my subjective opinion lead me to believe that the others are much more expensive than in Manhattan with poorer quality. (I gather that La Fontana is the worst, complete with pretense.)
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