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Good non-chain barbecue?

14 posts · Jul 16, 1998 to Jul 27, 1998

Joe B.Data Research Associates, Inc.Jul 16, 1998
Earl H. wrote:

>Memphis Best?? Chain?

Yup; at least it started out as such when it came to St. Louis.  There is still one in St. Charles and one in Brentwood; there was, at one time, a third in Florissant.  I'm pretty sure it started out as a franchise and went to independent ownership when the parent company had problems.

To answer Kiwi's initial question -- you might try Bandana's in Arnold (much like Supersmokers in that they offer a variety of geographical styles); my favorite in St. Louis is a fairly rundown but delicious spot called Roscoe McCrary's, or maybe just McCrary's, a few blocks west of Crown Candy. Wonderful down-home soul food style 'cue, and an especially potent "hot" version of the sauce.

joe b.
Leo B.RCN InternetJul 16, 1998
Kiwi:

Try the following. Very small, only about 7-8 tables, only a few side orders. Best for takeout but I did eat there at lunch when visiting my sister this past April. We had been doing family history/genealogy at St. Louis Public Library. they seem to get a good lunch time crowd.

Art & Wardy's Box Lunch Bar-B-Q Carryout
612 N. 11th [1/2 block north of Washington]
Downtown St. Louis
314-436-9065
Mon-Fri: 10:30 - 7:00
Sat: 10:30 - 3:00

Leo Boberschmidt
Kensington, MD [but grew up in Baden - many, many years ago (:-)]

P.S. Coming from St. Louis, Bar-B-Q meant ribs. BIG surprise when I moved to Washington, DC area in 1964 and found out about southern BBQ. "What the heck is this coleslaw doing on my sandwich???"

P.P.S. Kiki: I'm still working on the "St. Louis Dining Diary" for my trips this past April & October.
Lori F.Washington University in St. LouisJul 17, 1998
Someone wrote:
: How about some recommendations for good, non-chain barbecue?

I'm fond of Momma's coalpot, a little booth (and medium size smoker) in the Loop Market in UCity.  When it's pleasant, you can picnic at the nearby tables.  I've also taken stuff home -- the barbequed duck is a terrific variation.

LEF
John V.Internet 1st, IncJul 18, 1998
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Someone wrote:
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: I feel your pain for good BBQ.  If you are not averse to driving, Super : Smokers out in Eureka, MO is very good.  They serve both dry ribs as well as : pulled pork.  The meat is smoked over applewood and there is a sixpack : sauces which you can place on the meat: Eastern Carolina vinegar based, KC : style, Texas style (which is slightly spicy), St. Louis style (very tomato), :  South Carolina style mustard based, and their own special sauce.

Their side dishes are pretty lame, tho.  Best suggestion is to get your meat at Supersmokers and your sides practically next door at Phil's :)

John
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John V.Internet 1st, IncJul 18, 1998
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Someone wrote:
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: To answer Kiwi's initial question -- you might try Bandana's in Arnold (much

I tried their fried-corn-on-the-cob.  Different.  Haven't been there in a long time, because I forgot where it is.

John
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Tim H.Wash. Univ. - School of BusinessJul 20, 1998
John V. wrote in message ...
>Someone wrote:
>:
>: To answer Kiwi's initial question -- you might try Bandana's in Arnold
(much
>
>I tried their fried-corn-on-the-cob.  Different.  Haven't been there in a
long
>time, because I forgot where it is.
>
>John
>[email removed]
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55 South to 141
North on 141 to Jeffco Blvd.
Left on Jeffco. Approx. 1 mile
Bandana's is on the left side just past Fox High School
Joe B.Data Research Associates, Inc.Jul 20, 1998
Johann L. wrote:
>Supersmokers  is located in Eureka and O'Fallon.  Smokemasters is located
>next to Phil's.
>
>Johann
>

And the second location of Phil's (assuming it's still there, and I haven't been out that way for a couple months) is on 5th Street in Fenton.  You can see it from Supersmokers.

joe b.
Joe B.Data Research Associates, Inc.Jul 20, 1998
John V. wrote:
>I tried their fried-corn-on-the-cob.  Different.  Haven't been there in a
long
>time, because I forgot where it is.
>
>John
>[email removed]
>

Bandana's, 675 Jeffco Boulevard.  Either come down 61/67 from the north (assuming you're coming from the St. Louis side), or get off 55 at the Arnold exit, go east to 61/67 and turn left, and it's about 8-10 blocks on the left (west side of the street) in a strip center.

joe b.
Richard G.MacHeadsJul 20, 1998
Someone wrote:
McCrary's, a few blocks west of Crown Candy.

Parnell at St. Louis Streets
John V.Internet 1st, IncJul 21, 1998
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Someone wrote:
: I'll throw in my vote for the Rib Crib...  Clayton and 141 in the Lamp & : Lantern village...  they do a bang up job... and they do a good catering job : too! : : also... yes earl, Memphis Best is a chain from.... of all places.... Memphis. : : I believe they still exist in Tennessee

Oh, there's a new place.  Pit Master BBQ at Manchester and Sappingon (Rock Hill?(Next to Boston Market)). I'd say they're comparable to Supersmokers.  Ribs, brisket, pulled pork, sausage, all served naked; sauces are at the tables.  Looks and tastes good.

*However*, use your own judgement as to the cleanliness of the place.  It looked fine to me, but someone told me after I ate there that she saw them in the restaurant inspections column, cited for roaches.  I didn't see any of those there. I'm sure all restaurants are cited for problems now and again.

John "Who wishes Tennessee Jed's was still around" [email removed]
Rob A.Southwestern Bell Internet Services, Richardson, TXJul 21, 1998
I think you mean 5th street in Eureka, as there is no Phil's in Fenton.

Joe B. wrote:

> Johann L. wrote:
> >Supersmokers  is located in Eureka and O'Fallon.  Smokemasters is located
> >next to Phil's.
> >
> >Johann
> >
>
> And the second location of Phil's (assuming it's still there, and I haven't
> been out that way for a couple months) is on 5th Street in Fenton.  You can
> see it from Supersmokers.
>
> joe b.
Lee B.Remove the block to email meJul 23, 1998
I work near Rib Crib but avoid taking anyone there since quality can be uneven. Wanted to show off brats but they were overcooked; sauce is not especially good either.  I've had OK meals but people I've taken there haven't liked it as much as some other places.  We have a KC Masterpeice nearby too which tends to be polished but reliable.  Will try Charlottes Rib on Manchester some day when I'm doing lunches again!

Bill B. wrote:

> I'll throw in my vote for the Rib Crib...  Clayton and 141 in the Lamp &
> Lantern village...  they do a bang up job... and they do a good catering job
> too!
>
Lee B.Remove the block to email meJul 24, 1998
Tim that would actually be South on 141 towards Arnold... North goes towards Fenton.  Thanks for directions tho ... I live near 141 and will definitely follow my nose to Bandana's ...

Tim H. wrote:

>  you might try Bandana's in Arnold
>
> 55 South to 141
> North on 141 to Jeffco Blvd.
> Left on Jeffco. Approx. 1 mile
> Bandana's is on the left side just past Fox High School
> --
> Tim
NancyJul 27, 1998
Actually tried Bandana's yesterday.  It was good if you like the taste of smoke.  My daughter said she preferred the taste of meat.  I did like that fried corn on the cob.  Anyone know how they do that?  They wouldn't tell me......said it was a secret. Did not try the boiled peanuts, not brave enough.

Lee B. wrote:

> 141 crosses 21 & 30 which are both east - west so figured it was N-S or S-N
> depending on your orientation!  Anyway head away from Fenton and towards Arnold on
> 141!
>
> Nancy wrote:
>
> > thought 141 ran sorta east & west since 55 & Jeffco/61-67 run north and south
> >
> > Lee B. wrote:
> >
> > > Tim that would actually be South on 141 towards Arnold... North goes towards
> > > Fenton.  Thanks for directions tho ... I live near 141 and will definitely
> > > follow my nose to Bandana's ...
> > >
> > > Tim H. wrote:
> > >
> > > >  you might try Bandana's in Arnold
> > > >
> > > > 55 South to 141
> > > > North on 141 to Jeffco Blvd.
> > > > Left on Jeffco. Approx. 1 mile
> > > > Bandana's is on the left side just past Fox High School
> > > > --
> > > > Tim
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