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Fire and Ice (Church St. in Harvard Square)

2 posts · Sep 15, 1997 to Sep 15, 1997

Laura B.Massachvsetts Institvte of TechnologySep 15, 1997
 Someone wrote:
 >I just noticed a restaurant called Fire and Ice in Church St. on
 >Harvard Square, in the building with Cafe Fiorella and Brew Moon in
 >the space where that Chinese restaurant used to be.  Anybody know
 >anything about it?  I didn't see a menu outside (it was the morning,
 >before it opened), so I couldn't investigate too much.

 I was there for lunch the other day.  They offer a bunch of
 ingredients for grilling together: Meats included sirloin tips,
 chicken breast pieces, scallops, calamari, and pork pieces; this may
 vary, as another diner seemed surprised to not see lamb.  Veggies
 included white and portobello mushrooms, peppers, zucchini, tempeh,
 broccoli, garlic, onion, scallion, carrot, sprouts, and some other
 things I've forgotten.  There were about ten sauces, including some
 barbecue, some curry, teriyaki, black bean, and jerk sauce.  The
 sauces were of varying levels of hotness (though my three-star "Fire
 and Ice barbecue sauce" was noticably warm, I wouldn't have called it
 *hot*...).

 You get a cute little plastic palette with spaces for two bowls, one
 for the grilling stuff and one for the sauce.  After filling the bowls
 at the salad-bar-like counters (many items were duplicates - this may
 lead to less crowding, but if the diner is confused and goes to all
 the counters, the parallelism is wasted), you take the palette up to
 the round grill in the center of the room, where a cook grills it all
 together.  By the time you get back to your seat, the waitress has
 brought a clever little container with tortillas on the top (four for
 two people wasn't quite enough) and veggie-adulterated rice on the
 bottom.

 In addition to the grill dish, you also get a salad, a choice of
 three: caesar, spinach, and mixed greens (dressings on the side).
 A nice touch: you can choose between one grill and salad for $8 or all
 you can eat for $12 (prices from memory), but you don't have to choose
 at the start; you either only eat one, or you go back for lots, and
 the waitress (presumably) figures out which to charge you for.

 Everything was very fresh, and the variety of sauces was nice.  The
 spinach salad had walnuts and snow peas in it, which I thought was
 neat.  The decor was a little funky for my taste (I'm just not that
 into painted corrugated metal...).  In general, it was tasty and fun,
 though it may not be for everyone - if your intent in going out to eat
 is to get something you can't cook at home, and you do any amount of
 stir-frying, you may think "why bother coming here, I could do this
 myself at home."  Alternately, if you don't have much sense for what
 goes well together, your results may not be the best (or, as my dining
 companion put it, "Hmm, this is a really odd combination").  The menu
 implied the existence of recipe cards, which presumably had some
 suggested ingredient-and-sauce combinations, but I didn't find any.

 At any rate, I'm planning to go back some time when I'm starving to
 death and try all the sauces.  :)

 -Laura Baldwin
  [email removed]
Marcel L.Harvard University, Cambridge, MassachusettsSep 15, 1997
 HBalmat wrote:

 >>david carlton wrote:

 >>I just noticed a restaurant called Fire and Ice in Church St. on

 >I just saw that, too.  We went in to check out the menu, and found little
 >flyers that explained that there *is* no menu.  My friend said he thought
 >it must be similar to this "mongolian barbeque" place he knows in DC where
 >you fill your own bowl with all sorts of random ingredients, hand it to the
 >chefs, and they cook it for you.  No menus involved.

 It was written up recently in the Boston Globe (not a review, just
 a news item, probably in Alison Arnett's A La Carte column, which
 appears Wednesdays in the Food section).

 The article suggested that this "interactive dining concept" was a
 hot NEW trend in restaurants--and all I could think of was Mongolian
 BBQ, which has been around forever, though not, unfortunately, in
 Boston.  I guess it is "new" in the same way that "wraps" are new,
 instead of being "burritos" or "rollups."

 It is supposed to be similar to Mongolian BBQ, but with yuppified,
 non-Asian ingredients, if I recall correctly.  The basic idea
 is that you pick ingredients and sauces from a buffet, hand the
 bowl to one of the chefs, and he cooks it for you on a huge flat-
 topped grill.  He will usually add some liquid if it seems like
 you didn't add enough.

 You can have as much as you want at one time, as long as it fits
 in to the bowl.  I can't remember if Fire and Ice was all-you-can-eat
 all the time, but I recall that the article said that it was at
 dinnertime at least.

 At Tony Cheng's Mongolian Barbecue (probably the one your friend
 was thinking of in DC), the grill is the focus of the room--it is
 out in the center of the eating area.  There is a bit of show involved
 in the cooking.  Tipping the chef is encouraged, but not mandatory.
 If you do, he is likely to take more care with your food, and even
 give you suggestions on sauces next time through the line...

 In other Mongolian BBQ places I have visited, the grill is sometimes
 off to the side, or even in a separate kitchen.  Not as much fun.
 But few Chinese restaurant owners have the flair of Tony Cheng--
 in my experience, his restaurants (in the Baltimore and DC area)
 have stood out in the areas of decor and service, if not always
 for the food (which was always at least adequate).

 The downside of these types of places is that the quality of the
 food depends greatly on the skill of the diner--you choose the
 ingredients and sauces, so you are responsible for the taste.  And
 there is some luck involved, since you don't know exactly how their
 versions of the sauces taste, unlike in your own kitchen, with your
 own sauces.  Also, since all the ingredients are prepared in exactly
 the same way, quick grilling, there is an element of monotony after
 a while, even if you choose different ingredients and flavorings.

 Still, it can be a lot of fun to go to one of these places once in
 a while--at least the Mongolian BBQ (I'll reserve judgment on the
 westernized version).

 So when is Boston going to get a _real_ Mongolian BBQ?  Heck, they
 even have some in the barren wilds of my former home state (WI).

 Marcel
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