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OliversAug 2, 2000
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Heather J. wrote:
>
> I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
> My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
> explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
> with the city:
> -If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
> all?

a classic New Orleans thing....
Lunch, starting at 2PM, at Galatoire's, their remolaude, followed by speckled trout aumandine or my favorite, the eggplant suffed with crab and shrimp, a dish never achieving the acclaim it has deserved dince I've been eating it, 55 years, and likely long before that.

Obviously, late night coffee at du Monde, a tourist trap but the essence of the city, slumming for dinner at a diner/cafe joint West of Canal (is it Mother's?), for soft shell crab po'boys or even shrimp (or even "debris").  Central produce/Grocery on Decatur for a Muffaletta (a lunch sandwich of ample earthiness), followed by a stroll through the Market area, full of junk, some junky folks, a little produce and interesting seasonings and hot sauces to carry home.

I hesitate, not knowing your age or you, but a drink in the 'twin piano bar' at Pat O'Briens does capture the essence of what Southern college life was like back in the 50s.  From old favorites like "Roll Me Over" and the "Sheik of Araby" to college fight songs, choral exhuberance is still encouraged (and the old guy with his tin tray may still be accompanying the music).

> -what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
> traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
> appreciate it.

On the grounds that there's safety in numbers, and the NOPD, traditionally among the world's most corrupt, spends more time "on the pad' there, the Quarter's not really bad to walk in (avoiding unlit side streets late at night).  Might get your feet puked on by drunk kid, but....

If you're going to stay in the Quarter and who would stay elsewhere, at least for the color of it all, the Monteleone, a creaky old dowager, always fun works well for the automobile-less.  Small, but significantly New Orleansian, the Soniat House...

> -Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
> client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.

I told you my favorite, above....

Continental/modern, still in the Quarter, Bayona is upscale without overwhelming, and unlike many of the new places, clings to some semblance of good taste.

If your client is driving, Commander's Palace stil maintains a decent rep and maintains standards of yesteryear.

On second thought, plan an extra couple of days, and ask the your local customer for his/her recommendations, especially if he/she is a native.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)
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Heather,

I've read the other responses to your post and wish to offer a slightly different perspective.  Actually, 'Olivers"  had some good suggestions  but you'd need a stomach pump if you followed all of his ideas!

I go to New Orleans on business and would recommend staying in the French Quarter.   However,  if you're looking for comfort & luxury instead of funk, stay the hell away from the Ramada or "old dowagers." Unless you have an affinity for cockroaches.   The Royal Orleans is beautiful and centrally located and would be my first choice.  Two weeks ago I stayed at the new "W" Hotel which has many features that I love, such as feather pillows and modern comm hook-ups.

If you only had one night for dinner I'd concur with Olivers that Bayona would be terrific.  Contemporary with cajun & creole influences.  However I'm still partial to K-Paul's - been a Paul Prudhomme fan for 15 years and still think his original cookbook is one of the all time best.     Not much atmosphere and the service was a little rushed the last time I was there, but the food is superb - they now take reservations for the upstairs part of the restaurant.

If your inclined to do breakfast I'd recommend a little place called the Magnolia Cafe at 200 Chartres.

Finally, I love Zydeco so if you want to listen to some dynamite tunes, head over to Patout's on Bourbon,  grab a Blackened Voodoo and rock.

On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:42:50 GMT, Heather J
Someone wrote:

>I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
>My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
>explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
>with the city:
>-If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
>all?
>-what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
>traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
>appreciate it.
>-Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
>client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.
>
>Thanks so much,
>Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)
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Hi Heather!
My guess is you go where everybody goes: The French Quarter. Plenty of fun around there to spend a day. that is if you like to relax, walk around, watch people, listen to blues and jazz and feel comfortable. There are a lot of place in and around the FQ to stay, but just down to the business district are some real desent hotels which are away from the party croud. here is one, but like i said, there are plenty around: Avenue Plaza Hotel, 2111 St. Charles Ave, tel 504-566-1212

for food, there is so much choice. Just browse thru this newsgroup and you'll find plenty suggestions. again, here is one place that N.O. locals seem to enjoy too: Ralph & Kacoo's 519,  Toulouse St. French Quarter (best chicken I ever had)

one more thing: never mind the street hustlers. There annoying but pretty harmless.

have Fun, it certainly is the plave for it!!

Heather J  schreef in berichtnieuws
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> I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
> My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
> explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
> with the city:
> -If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
> all?
> -what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
> traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
> appreciate it.
> -Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
> client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)
OzAug 3, 2000
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Heather,

Some other really good restaurants in New Orleans proper are Gabrielle's (small place, call for reservations now), The Bombay Club in the French Quarter, or Delmonico's on St. Charles Avenue.

If I had to see New Orleans in a day, I would start with Grillades and Grits at Brennan's on Royal.  Touristy but good.  Walk off breakfast with a short tour of Royal Street and Jackson Square area until lunch time.  Then I would get the care and head for Liuzza's on Bienville for Onion Rings and a Schooner of Beer with whatever the daily special should happen to be.  From there, I would head Uptown to St Charles Avenue toward Audobon Zoo.  Take a gander at the homes and architecture along the way.  Take a visit to the zoo if that's your thing.  If you didn't do lunch at Liuzza's, you could continue up St Charles Avenue to Carrollton Avenue and eat at Camelia Grill. Be prepared for a wait at the peak of lunch time.  Continue up Carrollton Avenue to Bayou St John and the New Orleans Museum of Art.  From there I would head out on Wisner Blvd to Lakeshore Drive.  At Lakeshore Drive, head west to the West End area.  Find your way around the marina to West End Park and if it's getting to be dinner time, stop for seafood at Bruning's.  Make sure to take a ride out to The Point!  When you are done and ready to head back to town, it's back to Robert E. Lee Blvd and then right on Canal Blvd back to Downtown.  You can sample Bourbon Street after dark.  Have a Hurricane at Pat O'Brien's or karioke at Cat's Meow.  Top off the night at the Cage Du Monde for cafe au lait and beignets!!  Now that's a full day!!!

Oz
Heather J. wrote:
> I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
> My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
> explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
> with the city:
> -If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
> all?
> -what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
> traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
> appreciate it.
> -Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
> client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)
BijoudogAug 3, 2000
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Heather J. wrote:
> I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
> My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
> explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
> with the city:
> -If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
> all?

To see?  The St. Charles Streetcar is a nice tour, takes you through a lot of the city and you can easily get on and off.

To eat?  Peristyle is a great choice.  I agree with Bayona, but also highly recommend Brigtsen's, and Gautreau's for a good meal, though the latter can be a bit loud.  Commander's Palace and Galatoire's are good traditional places.  Napoleon house is a good place to go for lunch, very old building, seriously old waiters, too.

> -what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
> traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
> appreciate it.

I think that the Windsor Court Hotel is one of the great hotels anywhere. Nice rooms, excellent service.  You'll pay for it though.  It's right around the corner from Mother's, too.

> -Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
> client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.

See above.  The restaurants in the city, with few exceptions, are rather reasonably priced, especially compared to a New York or San Francisco.

>

> Thanks so much,
> Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)

your welcome, it's a great city, you'll have no shortage of fun!
Kathryn R.Aug 3, 2000
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Yes, definitely check out Mother's on Poydras St. for a casual and fantastic meal!  Their Jambalaya is fantastic and don't pass up a "Ferdie with Debris." For another fantastic casual meal, Frankie and Johnnies near the Garden District.  I don't remember the street name.  Stuffed artichokes!  Red Beans and Rice (on Monday).   YUMMMMM!

A couple of fun places to have a quiet, dark drink are Napoleon's and also Laffitte's Blacksmith Shoppe. They are both in the French Quarter.

Have Fun!!
Olivers wrote:

> Heather J. wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
> > My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
> > explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
> > with the city:
> > -If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
> > all?
>
> a classic New Orleans thing....
> Lunch, starting at 2PM, at Galatoire's, their remolaude, followed by
> speckled trout aumandine or my favorite, the eggplant suffed with crab
> and shrimp, a dish never achieving the acclaim it has deserved dince
> I've been eating it, 55 years, and likely long before that.
>
> Obviously, late night coffee at du Monde, a tourist trap but the essence
> of the city, slumming for dinner at a diner/cafe joint West of Canal (is
> it Mother's?), for soft shell crab po'boys or even shrimp (or even
> "debris").  Central produce/Grocery on Decatur for a Muffaletta (a lunch
> sandwich of ample earthiness), followed by a stroll through the Market
> area, full of junk, some junky folks, a little produce and interesting
> seasonings and hot sauces to carry home.
>
> I hesitate, not knowing your age or you, but a drink in the 'twin piano
> bar' at Pat O'Briens does capture the essence of what Southern college
> life was like back in the 50s.  From old favorites like "Roll Me Over"
> and the "Sheik of Araby" to college fight songs, choral exhuberance is
> still encouraged (and the old guy with his tin tray may still be
> accompanying the music).
>
> > -what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
> > traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
> > appreciate it.
>
> On the grounds that there's safety in numbers, and the NOPD,
> traditionally among the world's most corrupt, spends more time "on the
> pad' there, the Quarter's not really bad to walk in (avoiding unlit side
> streets late at night).  Might get your feet puked on by drunk kid,
> but....
>
> If you're going to stay in the Quarter and who would stay elsewhere, at
> least for the color of it all, the Monteleone, a creaky old dowager,
> always fun works well for the automobile-less.  Small, but significantly
> New Orleansian, the Soniat House...
>
> > -Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
> > client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.
>
> I told you my favorite, above....
>
> Continental/modern, still in the Quarter, Bayona is upscale without
> overwhelming, and unlike many of the new places, clings to some
> semblance of good taste.
>
> If your client is driving, Commander's Palace stil maintains a decent
> rep and maintains standards of yesteryear.
>
> On second thought, plan an extra couple of days, and ask the your local
> customer for his/her recommendations, especially if he/she is a native.
> >
> > Thanks so much,
> > Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)
Jeff L.Aug 3, 2000
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Just went on a trip their myself and I have some comments and a few questions.  My wife and I are pretty big time diners and love a good meal but I must say that New Orleans felt like we missed something.  Perhaps it was the hot weather or the crowds but nothing seemed to live up to the hype.

The places we ate were:

1. Mulate's - Near the convention center.  Our first cabbie described it as the only touristy place he ever eats so we were in.  Crowded at lunch but excellent red beans and rice with cajun sausage as well as fish and shellfish dishes.  We ate there several times for a quick lunch and it was always fun.  What I imagined of spicy, rich cajun food.  Tip is to eat at the bar if it is crowded.  Hardly anyone seems to know that and wait up to 30 minutes out front.

2. Alex Patout's - Nice room.  It just looked sort of nice on our first night before our bearings were set.  However, the entrees we had were not the greatest.  But since it was the first night their we weren't sure if it was authentic.  I had the 24 hour cooked pork loin and it was tough as leather.  The rest was so unremarkable I can't even recall.

3. Bayona was up for our first big planned meal.  The food was excellent and the Sommolier was very knowledgable and friendly.  However, the service was so slow we were very put off.  30 minutes from appetizer to salad.  Then a full hour before our entrees came.  I like a leisurely pace at times but this was excessive.  The place was busy but not full.  We commented and they appologized but offered no explaination.  The food was so good but the pacing really spoiled it.  I would love to hear that this is atypical.  With that proviso, I would heartily recommend it. Our friends kept going on about how the service was so much better at Commander's Palace that we planned on that next.

4. Commander's palace.  Great room, nice bar.  The kitchen dining table looks as fun as everyone said it would be.  We joked with the chef Jamie while we waited for our table.  The service was very prompt and friendly like I am used to in nicer French-style places.  However, we were a bit surprised by our reaction.  I knew it was traditional Creole but the settings and style brought to mind French cuisine and it certainly wasn't that.  Our server at least was attentive but unknowledgeable.  She didn't know what several of the dishes were exactly.  She didn't like wine and there was noone like a sommolier around to help us out either.  Appetizer of Garlic bread was good but didn't really feel like it fit in.  Everything came fast but was sort of dull compared to Bayona.  More of the meat-and-potatoes creole variety.  My wife, (the dessert queen) even thought the bread pudding souffle that everyone raves about was too sweet and unremarkable other than its size.  We really enjoyed ourselves but it just doesn't measure up to the *** places we have been.  It was sad that I liked the food at Mulate's better.  Again a more knowledgable server and better meal choices may make a great difference.

5. Cafe Giovanni. After five days we craved anything but southern food. Went to this italian and it was excellent.  The appetizers were wonderful and the pasta was equally good.  Service was fun and friendly.  We really liked it.

Overall, we left less than overwhelmed.  Of course we were there at a busy time when we couldn't get into K-Paul's and all the Emeril places were either being remodeled or swamped.  If we could get Commmander's service with Bayona's wine and food we would have been pretty happy.

A little jaded and probably too snobby about food.
-J

Alan B. wrote:
> If you only had one night for dinner I'd concur with Olivers that
> Bayona would be terrific.  Contemporary with cajun & creole
> influences.  However I'm still partial to K-Paul's - been a Paul
> Prudhomme fan for 15 years and still think his original cookbook is
> one of the all time best.     Not much atmosphere and the service was
> a little rushed the last time I was there, but the food is superb -
> they now take reservations for the upstairs part of the restaurant.
>
> If your inclined to do breakfast I'd recommend a little place called
> the Magnolia Cafe at 200 Chartres.
>
> Finally, I love Zydeco so if you want to listen to some dynamite
> tunes, head over to Patout's on Bourbon,  grab a Blackened Voodoo and
> rock.
>
>
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:42:50 GMT, Heather J
> Someone wrote:
>
> >I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
> >My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
> >explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
> >with the city:
> >-If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
> >all?
> >-what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
> >traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
> >appreciate it.
> >-Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
> >client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.
> >
> >Thanks so much,
> >Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)
>
LindaAug 4, 2000
I'm going to second Galatoire's but recommend their Oysters Embrochette or if they happen to have Soft Shell Crab don't pass it up, it's devine.  I also love their fried eggplant served with powdered sugar.  Yummy.  Central Grocery store is a must as is Cafe du Monde. Linda

Heather J. wrote:
>I'm going to New Orleans for the first time this Fall for a sales call.
>My business is only going to take up a day, and I have another day to
>explore. I would like some recommendations from people who are familiar
>with the city:
>-If you only had one day there, what would you see and do (and eat) above
>all?
>-what is a good central location to stay in that is safe for a woman
>traveling alone? If you can point me to some specific hotels, I would
>appreciate it.
>-Can you also please give me a nice restaurant name for entertaining my
>client? Something upscale but not extravagantly priced would be the best.
>
>Thanks so much,
>Heather J (take out spamless to reply by email)
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Linda wrote:
>
> I'm going to second Galatoire's but recommend their Oysters Embrochette or
> if they happen to have Soft Shell Crab don't pass it up, it's devine.  I
> also love their fried eggplant served with powdered sugar.  Yummy.  Central
> Grocery store is a must as is Cafe du Monde.
> Linda
>
There's a lady who knows food.  Many modernists are not impressed by Galatoire's, a restaurant which belongs to the "places you go because your grandfather was a wise man" category (Tadich Grill, etc.).  The decor is locked in time.  The staff are hardly effusive or obsequious. The wine list is mostly for drinking, not exhibitonists.  ...and, by Golly, you might have to wait a whole thirty minutes for some courses. The only reservations possible require at least thirty years of dealing with the same waiter, and they've only recently provided a place to wait out of the rain/heat/bustle of Bourbon St.

But the food is consistent, marked by a handful of dishes of classic dimension.  Lunching at 2PM on a weekday with no hard plans before 5 is a retreat to the past worthy of consideration.  The best approach in my mind is for a couple to order a single dish at a time, sharing each until overtaken by unconsciousness, apoplexy or the rush to catch a flight.

As for Central Groc and DuMonde, he/she who fails to stop has missed an appointment in Samarra....(and the obligatory carry out, a large jar of Zatarain's Creole Mustard).
DANNY L.Bristol-Myers Squibb CompanyAug 10, 2000
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Here are a few that I have yet to see mentioned on this thread:

Mother's - a sandwich shop on Poydras.  Try the "debris" sandwich and get it "dressed."

Bella Luna - nice upscale place near the French Market in the Quarter.

Pascal's Manale - Italian as the name suggests, but also famous as the restaurant that originated NO bargecued shrimp, a spicy treat.

I'll have to add my voice to those who like Gallatiore's.  On a recent visit I ate an artichoke crabmeat dish that was heavenly.  I'll cast my vote for Commander's

Palace as well.  Other places may have more sophisticated food choices, but the service is attentive and the ambiance is pleasant.

DLL

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LesliemmMindSpring EnterprisesAug 19, 2000
">
> Mother's - a sandwich shop on Poydras.  Try the "debris" sandwich and get
it
> "dressed."
>
> Bella Luna - nice upscale place near the French Market in the Quarter.
>
> Pascal's Manale - Italian as the name suggests, but also famous as the
> restaurant
> that originated NO bargecued shrimp, a spicy treat.
>
Nobody here has mentioned Irene's, wonderful Italian. Impossible to walk by, smell the garlic and not drool :-) Leslie
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Absolutely!  My wife and I travel to New Orleans every year or two and we never, ever miss a trip to Irene's.  It's the only place I've been that I will get to early in the evening just so I can get a table. We're heading back the last weekend of September.  I can't wait!!!!

beerguy

lesliemm wrote:
>
> I'll say it again, don't miss Irene's. Any backups here?
> Leslie
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