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11 posts · Apr 12, 1993 to Jul 29, 1996

David S.Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - MilwaukeeApr 12, 1993
      I can't seem to retrieve the letter requesting Amsterdam restaurants,
so here are my favorites:

      1. D' Vijff Vlieghen <Five Flies>
            International and Dutch cuisine, centrally located, near the
            Spui, it is set in 5 small townhouses with seven seperate
            dining rooms. The houses date back to the 1600. Decor is
            different in each dining room but the style is Rennaissance
            for all..they even have 2 original Rembrandt sketchings..
            I still have an old menu here in front of me.
            Specialities include: Dutch brown bean soup, Dutch sole,
            Dutch smoked fish, macaroon pudding and smoked eel soup.
            Five Flies is one of my favorite restaurants in the world.
            And they have been good for many years..my father says
            it was great during WWII..

      2. T Schwarte Schaep <The Black Sheep>
            French restaurant with a regularly changing menu. Can't
            remember where it is but I can remember it being pretty exp-
            ensive.
      3. Other French places..
                  a. Les Quatre Canetons
                  b. De Boerderij
      4. Oesterbar
            This also one of my favorite places. It *never* closes and
            is very casual. Fresh, fresh seafood. Dutch and Dover sole.
            And, of course, oysters. You can walk here from the Rijks-
            museum. Great place for lunch.
Also, try the Cafe Americain for coffee and people watching, Oblomow for an "upscale" bar, and Le Grill..located in the Hotel de Paris, not far from the casino..for lunch. Have fun. I envy you.

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David J. Spencer
marc S.XS4ALL, networking for the massesFeb 24, 1995
Jonathan M. wrote:
>
> Someone wrote:
> :      Who knows any good restaurants in Amsterdam?
>
> Yes I do but ... stay away from them.  Eat at local places, tourist traps
> are not good, usually overpriced.
>
> Try a RollMop available at any street stand !! yum yum !
>
> Amsterdam is a very odd place if you've never been there before, almost
> everyone speaks English, but they don't admit it.
>
> BTW I am Dutch and I will tell you that in Holland (Pays Bas to you) you
> will probably get some of the worst food in the world.
>
> DearOldDad

What kind of bullshit is this!!? Amsterdam has got some great places to eat! Try : Zomers restaurant ,Prinsengracht 411(french,international)
      Borderwijk        ,Noordermarkt  7  (french,international)
      Pacific century   ,Nw spiegelstr 8  (pacific,former cook of spago(l.a)
      Tom Yam Thai      ,J Vermeerstr  40 (thai)

And yes everybody does speak English,but we don't hide  on we're not french.

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Danny L.PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYCFeb 24, 1995
Someone wrote:

>Jonathan M. wrote:
>>
>> Someone wrote:
>> :      Who knows any good restaurants in Amsterdam?
>>
>> Yes I do but ... stay away from them.  Eat at local places, tourist traps
>> are not good, usually overpriced.
>>
>> Try a RollMop available at any street stand !! yum yum !
>>
>> Amsterdam is a very odd place if you've never been there before, almost
>> everyone speaks English, but they don't admit it.
>>
>> BTW I am Dutch and I will tell you that in Holland (Pays Bas to you) you
>> will probably get some of the worst food in the world.
>>
>> DearOldDad

>What kind of bullshit is this!!? Amsterdam has got some great places to eat!
>Try : Zomers restaurant ,Prinsengracht 411(french,international)
>      Borderwijk        ,Noordermarkt  7  (french,international)
>      Pacific century   ,Nw spiegelstr 8  (pacific,former cook of spago(l.a)
>      Tom Yam Thai      ,J Vermeerstr  40 (thai)
>
>And yes everybody does speak English,but we don't hide  on we're not french.

>[email removed]

It's been a few years since I've been there but I remember that the food was unusually good and plentiful. Does anyone know if the Sin Sindel bar/restaurant is still there.  This place had great home style cooking. I returned there twice to try different dishes.  Also does anyone know if the Hotel Brian is still in operation?  A fun place to stay!  Cheers to all in Amsterdam!  My favorite city so far.
MikewXS4ALL, networking for the massesMar 11, 1995
If I can make a suggestion for a nice indonesian restaurant in Amsterdam, try "speciaal" (means special) in the Nieuwe Leliestraat. It not very fancy, good food (and plenty of it) and Hagen daz for desert ;-). The menu is in english available.

(tel +31 (0) 20 6249706) It is wise to make a reservation, it quite busy)

Eet smakelijk

    Mike "the next time I finish it all" Wessling
Danielle G.FWI, University of AmsterdamJan 31, 1996
For the indonesian restaurant I would advise you to go to: Raden Mas I think it's on the Stadhouderskade (or an extension of that kade) take a tram to the  Leidseplein, then walk away from the centre where you'll see two big Hotels (A Mariott and a B...?) The restaurant is to the left of these. Extremely good food, nice luxurious surroundings and not too ridiculously expensive. Well worth a try. Good service too.

(I was there yesterday, and it's still extremely good and delicious!)

Bon Appetit!
Danielle

BCrow wrote:

>i will be travelling to amsterdam in a couple of weeks and would appreciate
>any suggestions for moderate to high end restaurants in general and any
>highly recommended indonesian restaurants in particular. i have guide
>books and have suggestions from the web but would like some personal
>reflections.

>thanks in advance!
FonEuroNet InternetJan 31, 1996
BCrow wrote:

> i will be travelling to amsterdam in a couple of weeks and would appreciate
> any suggestions for moderate to high end restaurants in general and any
> highly recommended indonesian restaurants in particular. i have guide
> books and have suggestions from the web but would like some personal
> reflections.

DON'T go to the Raden Mas restaurant as someone else suggested, unless you appreciate rather bland semi Chinese-Indonesian food for way too much money! There are no upscale good Indonesian restaurants in Amsterdam but there a a few pleasant eateries that serve more or less authentic Indonesian dishes. 'Speciaal' (Nieuwe Leliestraat 142, tel. 020-625.67.18) is said to be one of the best. 'Sama Sebo' (P.C. Hoofdstraat 27, tel. 020- 662.81.46), located near the Rijksmuseum, is pleasant too and so is 'Tempo Doeloe' (Utrechtsestraat 75, tel. 020 - 625.67.18). All three are situated in the center of town. If you want upscale indonesian food, you should go to The Hague! Good regional French food with a modern touch can be found in a very pittoresque and interesting location (on the waterfront, near ancient draw bridges and 17th century warehouses and shipyards) not far from the Central Station. The place (a former coffee house in a beautifully restored 17th century townhouse) is called 'De Gouden Reael' (Zandhoek 14, tel. 020 - 623.38.83). Although located less than a mile from the station, you'll need a taxi to get there. For the best French food in town in the poshest surroundings (and a bill to match...) go to' La Rive' in the Amstel Hotel (Prof. Tulpplein 1, tel. 020 - 622.60.60). The food is superb!

Culifon
Sally C.XS4ALL, networking for the massesJul 13, 1996
Don't be too shocked to learn food in Europe is more expensive than in the U.S.  Having said that, here are some of my favourite restaurants in Amsterdam:  De Kersentuin in the Garden Hotel for consistently good continental cuisine (always does fish wonderfully), Kaiko if you're looking for a sushi bar (though it's located in the south end of Amsterdam, but easily reached by taxi if you're staying in the centre), Tuinhuis for dinner in the back garden (beautiful French styled garden) if it ever gets hot enough this summer, Le Pecheur for excellent fish, The Five Flies for modern Dutch cooking (ask the hotel concierge for the proper Dutch name...)

Meanwhile, avoid Le Garage (more hype...tried it once and was disappointed that the tuna was NOT fresh), Le Tout Court (some will say it's a very good restaurant, but not great in my opinion)

If you get a chance, head south 2 hrs to Brussels....much better food! However, you will have to check to make sure the restaurant hasn't closed for summer vacation.

Bon Appetite!

Cfrenchmen wrote:

> Will be in Amsterdam Aug. 10 and 11.  What restaurants should I not miss?
FonCulifonJul 14, 1996
Cfrenchmen wrote:

>  Will be in Amsterdam Aug. 10 and 11.  What restaurants should I not miss?

The restaurant you shouldn't miss: de Gouden Reael, Zandhoek 14, Amsterdam. This restaurant is located in a very pittoresque part of town with ancient draw bridges, warehouses and small shipyards. They serve regional French cuisine (every season another region; this summer it is Languedoc) with a personal - modern - twist and regional wines to match. The atmosphere is very informal and friendly. If you're lucky with the weather you can sit on their waterfront terrace and watch the multitude of ships and boats go by...

Culifon

"There is no love sincerer than the love of food" (G.B. Shaw)
WhateverThe World Bank GroupJul 16, 1996
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says...
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> Will be in Amsterdam Aug. 10 and 11.  What restaurants should I not
miss?

don't miss tempo dollo (or something like that). high quality and reasonably priced indonesian. reservations are necessary well in advance i believe. if i can find the matches i'll e-mail you the phone number. also, the food is quite spicy but they will accommodate wimpier tastes. they were amazed that i could eat the spicy things "as is" without cooling them off.
Adrian S.Avid TechnologyJul 18, 1996
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>says...
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>> Will be in Amsterdam Aug. 10 and 11.  What restaurants should I not
>miss?
>
>don't miss tempo dollo (or something like that). high quality and
>reasonably priced indonesian. reservations are necessary well in
>advance i believe. if i can find the matches i'll e-mail you the phone
>number. also, the food is quite spicy but they will accommodate
>wimpier tastes. they were amazed that i could eat the spicy things "as
>is" without cooling them off.
>
As befits a major european capital city, Amsterdam is full of very good restaurants. The Indonesian cuisine (a relic of Holland's colonial past) is the unique feature of the Dutch scene, and Amsterdam has hundreds if not thousands of Indonesia restaurants. The thing to do in these places is to ask for a "rijstaafel" (tr. rice-table)...which consists of a bowl of rice and, depending on numbers and the restaurant's own whim, anything up to 40 or 50 little dishes of goodies, ranging from satays (like mini-kebabs with peanut sauce) to rendang (beef stew with coconut) to gado-gado (salad with hard-boiled egg, shrimp chips and peanut sauce). Most restaurants will ofer two or three different rijstaafel options and obviously it's more fun if you go in a group. Actually most Indonesia food is not spicy on its own...but they do provide a variety of sauces ("sambals") which can be incandescently hot.

There are so many good ones that I can't really recommend any one or two...tak a cab to the Leidseplein (LIGHT-se-pline) and take a walk around...that whole area is solid restaurants, bars, jazz and blues clubs, cafes, coffeeshops, etc. Note that in Amsterdam BARS sell alcohol but no drugs, whereas COFFESHOPS sell coffee, and frequently marijuana in various forms, a trade to which the authorities turn a blind eye. Coffeeshops do NOT sell alcohol. No visit to Amsterdam would be complete without a walk around the red light district, where the ladies believe in the shop-window approach. Ask any local where to go, but if you start with your back to the Centraalstation (the main railroad station) and head off to your front and to the left, you'll find it!

Tot ziens!
Don S.Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016Jul 29, 1996
Whatever wrote:

>In article , [email removed]€
>says...
>>
>> Will be in Amsterdam Aug. 10 and 11.  What restaurants should I not
>miss?

>don't miss tempo dollo (or something like that). high quality and
>reasonably priced indonesian. reservations are necessary well in
>advance i believe. if i can find the matches i'll e-mail you the phone
>number. also, the food is quite spicy but they will accommodate
>wimpier tastes. they were amazed that i could eat the spicy things "as
>is" without cooling them off.

The place is called "Tempo Doeloe" (that last word rhymes with "lulu"), and they serve some of spiciest food on the planet.  They do a grilled mackerel in habanero sauce that is unbelievable.  Endorphin-pepper rushes galore.

Also good is Sama Sebo for Indonesian, again of high quality, if not quite so ferociously spicy.

Good local places include Sluizer's (up the street from Tempo Doloe; they're both in Utrechtestraat), Haesje Claes, and Holland's Glorie. If you go to the Vijf Flieghen (Five Flies), bring lotsa money or a credit card with plenty left to go on the spending limit.
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