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9 posts · Feb 10, 1995 to Feb 23, 1995

Marcel L.Harvard University, Cambridge, MassachusettsFeb 10, 1995
 LisaBeth G. wrote:

 >My boyfriend and I will be taking a trip to the Boston area in a few
 >weeks and were wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to which
 >restaurants we should try. The only type of food we don't tend to eat

 Suggestions:

 1.  Check out Ellis Cohen's recommended Boston Restaurant List, which
 is on the World Wide Web at
 http://www.osf.org:8001/boston-food/boston-food.html
 The list contains pretty reliable reviews, and is searchable by
 name, neighborhood, and type of cuisine!  The list is also available
 by anonymous ftp, but I don't have the address here, so email me if
 you want it.

 2.  If you are more specific as to price range and type of cuisine,
 I may be able to help you a little more.  Anyhow, here are a few
 of my favorites in a variety of price ranges and styles:

 Elephant Walk--French/Cambodian (Union Sq. Somerville, or Beacon St.
   and Park Drive, on the Boston/Brookline line). Moderate.
 Alloro--New Italian/Mediterranean (Hanover St., North End) Expensive
 Olives--Mediterranean (Charlestown). Expensive.
 Figs--Unusual Pizzas and Pasta (Charlestown).  Moderate.
 Il Panino--Pastas, Pizza, Subs (Mass. Ave., between Harvard and Central
   Squares, Cambridge, also in the North End).  Inexpensive.
 Grand Chau Chow--Chinese (Chinatown).  Inexpensive/Moderate

 Some Brunch suggestions:
 Blue Room (One Kendall Sq., Cambridge)--Unusual, creative brunch, focusing
 on grilled meats, really good vegetable and pasta salads, and great desserts.
 ($15pp).
 Turner Fisheries (Westin Hotel, Copley Sq., Boston)--very good seafood-
 oriented brunch (around $20pp).
 China Pearl and Golden Palace (both Chinatown)--Dim Sum.

 Other good places include:  East Coast Grill (Grilled, often spicy, foods)
 and Jae's Cafe (Korean, Japanese, and other asian foods in a sleek setting)
 in Inman Square, Cambridge; Redbones (BBQ)--Davis Sq., Somerville; Japanese
 Food Court (Porter Sq. Exchange, Cambridge--the building with Cottonwood
 Cafe); Ho Yuen Ting, East Ocean City, Asian Garden (all Chinatown, again,
 ask what seafood is good; and at HYT, get beef ginger and scallion hot pot).

 There are many more.  Let me know if you want more suggestions, or want
 some specific categories/price ranges.  Hope this helps.

 Marcel
Robert B.University of PennsylvaniaFeb 10, 1995
 Someone wrote:
 : My boyfriend and I will be taking a trip to the Boston area in a few
 : weeks and were wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to which
 : restaurants we should try. The only type of food we don't tend to eat
 : is Mexican so anything else is an option.
 : Thank you for your help in advance.
 : LisaBeth
 : --
 : --Plant a new Truffula. Treat it with care. Give it clean water. And
 :   feed it freah air. Grow a forest. Protect it from axes that hack.

 Legal Seafood is NOT a tourist trap, if it were, why would they have so
 many locations in places that tourists do even get near??--Chestnut Hill,
 Rt 9, Worcester...need I go on, The have the best quality seafood around,
 and it doesn't come cheap.

 Olive's in Charlestown is the place to go. The atmosphere is great, the
 prices are reasonable. If 2 people go, order 2 app. 1 entree and 2
 desserts, the entree's are so big that you'll never be able to eat it all
 yourself. This would cost $45-50 before tip and beverages so you be the
 judge over whether or not it is expensive.

 Rob
Kerry M.The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MAFeb 11, 1995
 Someone wrote:
 : Legal Seafood is NOT a tourist trap, if it were, why would they have so
 : many locations in places that tourists do even get near??--Chestnut Hill,
 : Rt 9, Worcester...need I go on, The have the best quality seafood around,
 : and it doesn't come cheap.

 Yes, yes...I said I was prepared to be flamed...and perhaps
 "tourist trap" was overly harsh - so let me restate that:

 Legal Seafoods is not exactly a tourist trap, but is vastly
 overrated.  Their seafood *is* fresh, but what they do with
 it is so-so.  They also like to pack 'em in, which I do not
 personally like, and the place is always crowded as hell (I usually
 go to the big one).  Also, part of my dissapointment stems from
 the decline in quality over the past 15 years.

 So, for the price, you get more at Turners.  The seafood is both
 fresh and more creatively prepared - the appetizers are generally
 excellent, and their chowder is thick and tasty (won the chowderfest
 four years in a row).

 The almost perfect Turners dinner:

 Tuna carpaccio & mussels dijonnaise for appetizers.
 Caeser Salad.
 Maryland crabcakes w/jumbo shrimp for entree.

 (I almost never eat dessert, so don't ask me).

 The crabcakes are *unbelievable* - so rich I have only
 finished them once.

 As for Skipjacks - yes, generally very good, no complaints. It is
 a litthe cheaper, too, but the few times I have tried it, I have been
 generally dissapointed if I compared the meal to the Turners
 equivalent.

 Finally, I admit, a minor factor in why I like Turners better
 is that it *is* a bit more expensive, and hence, a bit more
 exclusive - I have never seen big-haired blonde bimbos & their
 boyfriends from Revere in Turners.  Generally, the suburb hicks
 go to Legal's for that "big nite out in the city".  Of course,
 this may not be because of the price - Legals is considerably
 more famous than Turners, and hence they cast a wider net, but
 whatever the reason, I like it.  You can call me a snob, but
 if I'm going to spend $125 for a meal (for 2, with drinks & wine),
 I prefer a refined atmosphere.

 Happy eating!

 -kmm.
JOHN B.Oxford University VAX 6620Feb 21, 1995
 LisaBeth G. wrote:
 > My boyfriend and I will be taking a trip to the Boston area in a few
 > weeks and were wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to which
 > restaurants we should try.
 *snip*
 > LisaBeth
 *snip*

 John Harvard's Brewhouse across the river in Cambridge - I went there last
 October and it was great. Not too expensive, and not at all tacky/touristy as
 the name might suggest. I can't remember exactly where it is, but it's a few
 minutes from the Harvard Square "T" stop.

 Incidentally, two questions:

 Has the standard of service in Boston declined? We were there two years ago and
 it was great everywhere, last year (apart from the above which was great) it
 was mediocre to non-existent.

 Where has Joyce Chen's Chinese resaurant gone? It was on Stuart St, but closed
 between Oct 93 and Oct 94. Disastrous loss!!

 John
Marcel L.Harvard University, Cambridge, MassachusettsFeb 21, 1995
 JOHN B. wrote:

 >John Harvard's Brewhouse across the river in Cambridge - I went there last
 >October and it was great. Not too expensive, and not at all tacky/touristy as
 >the name might suggest. I can't remember exactly where it is, but it's a few
 >minutes from the Harvard Square "T" stop.

 It is at 33 Dunster St., in the basement beneath the Garage Mall.  It is
 1 block from the main entrance of the Harvard Sq. T stop (the one with
 Out of Town News).  I think that John Harvard's is an ok place, but
 it really isn't one of the places I would go out of my way to visit if
 I were only in Boston for a short time.  The beer is ok (as far as brewpubs
 go, I think that Cambridge Brewing Company in Kendall Square, and Boston
 Beer Works near Kenmore both have better beer). The food is ok (possibly
 more interesting than BBW, and definitely much better than CBC). They do
 have the best atmosphere, I think, and very good service.  I haven't been
 to Commonwealth Brewery (near Boston Garden/North Station) in years, as
 I didn't really like it much, and I haven't yet visited Brew Moon
 (Theatre District--in Joyce Chen's old space (see below)); although the
 reviews on food were good, the beer reports have been mixed.

 After all that comparison of brew pubs, I would suggest going somewhere
 else if you are only in Boston for a limited time, as they are neither
 the best restaurants (in their price category or overall) in Boston
 (IMHO), nor really unique or representative of the area.  Definitely
 try the seafood--if not at Legal's, Skipjack's, Turner Fisheries, or
 some other standard seafood house (I think those are generally thought
 to be among the best), then at a Chinese (e.g. Grand Chau Chow, East
 Ocean City, Asian Garden) or Italian (e.g. Daily Catch, Giacamo's are
 popular and not prohibitively expensive) restaurant, for example.

 >Incidentally, two questions:

 >Has the standard of service in Boston declined? We were there two years ago and
 >it was great everywhere, last year (apart from the above which was great) it
 >was mediocre to non-existent.

 Actually, I think service in Boston has stayed about the same, or possibly
 improved over the 6 years I have lived here.  The restaurant scene is
 becoming more competitive, and I think this may be reflected in slightly
 higher standards of service.

 >Where has Joyce Chen's Chinese resaurant gone? It was on Stuart St, but closed
 >between Oct 93 and Oct 94. Disastrous loss!!

 They lost their lease on the Stuart St. location, due in part to financial
 difficulties.  They still have a restaurant across from the Alewife T
 stop in Cambridge.  I never went there, but most reports suggested that
 Joyce Chen's has been in decline for years, and that it is not such
 a great loss (especially when you can walk a couple blocks to Chinatown
 and get a great Chinese meal at quite a few places).  My wife has eaten
 at their Cambridge location many times in the past 2 years (she works
 nearby), and she does not have a high opinion of their food--if she has
 a choice, she goes elsewhere.  It's edible, but nothing special.
Barbara G.Delphi Internet Services CorporationFeb 21, 1995
 In article , [email removed] (JOHN W
 BURGOYNE) writes:
 > John Harvard's Brewhouse across the river in Cambridge - I went there last
 > October and it was great. Not too expensive, and not at all tacky/touristy as
 > the name might suggest.

 Good choice.  I was there on Saturday for lunch and had a warm lamb salad.
 This was cous cous with feta and olives over the cous cous, surrounded by some
 lamb sausage and some pieces of roast lamb. Very very good.

 Also, try their cask conditioned ale, served cool, not cold and with out the
 CO2 forced through it...naturally pumped upstairs.

  I can't remember exactly where it is, but it's a few
 > minutes from the Harvard Square "T" stop.

 33 Dunster Street...which is the name of the restaurant it used to be before
 it became a Brew Pub. >

 > Where has Joyce Chen's Chinese resaurant gone? It was on Stuart St, but closed
 > between Oct 93 and Oct 94. Disastrous loss!!

 I heard they were evicted for not paying their rent.
 I wonder if they still have a restaurant (the original) over off of Fresh Pond
 Parkway.

 Barbara
Janice S.The PipelineFeb 22, 1995
 Discovered a wonderful place on Sunday on Newbury Street called Stephanie's
 (corner of Exeter St.) right where the old Harvard Book Store Cafe used to
 be.  What a fantastic array of upscale deli-type food - we had a warm goat
 cheese salad that was to die for (before you cringe - I am not an
 adventurous eater, and LOVED it).  Don't miss this - everything we had (and
 everything we saw go by us to other tables) was out of this world.
 If I had any criticism, it was that it was noisy and tables in VERY close
 proximity.
 Try it!
 Janice
Thea F.The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MAFeb 23, 1995
 Marcel L. wrote:

       >snip<
 >go, I think that Cambridge Brewing Company in Kendall Square, and Boston
 >Beer Works near Kenmore both have better beer). The food is ok (possibly
 >more interesting than BBW, and definitely much better than CBC). They do
 >have the best atmosphere, I think, and very good service.  I haven't been
 >to Commonwealth Brewery (near Boston Garden/North Station) in years, as
 >I didn't really like it much, and I haven't yet visited Brew Moon
 >(Theatre District--in Joyce Chen's old space (see below)); although the
 >reviews on food were good, the beer reports have been mixed.

       Agreed.  I've heard the same reports about Brew Moon.  Another
 good place for beer variety, not microbrew, but variety -- is The Sunset
 Grill & Tap in Brighton.  I don't know what their tap count is up to now,
 plus they have hundreds of different beers -- from the subline to the
 ridiculous (i.e. -- they offer Bud) ;-)  Anyway -- their food is good
 plus they serve a LOT of it.  Nachos, for example, are plenty for 4.  And
 I've often takne 1/2 the entree home for lunch the next day.  Wish I
 could do that with the beers... ;-)  They offer 1/2 yards & yards of beer
 as a gimmick, but only do that if you want to.  Otherwise they have an
 incredible selection and will offer knowledgeable options if you say "I
 usually drink X, what do you suggest?"

 >Actually, I think service in Boston has stayed about the same, or possibly
 >improved over the 6 years I have lived here.  The restaurant scene is
 >becoming more competitive, and I think this may be reflected in slightly
 >higher standards of service.

       I'm wondering if service in places around Cambridge & Kenmore
 cycles good & bad because often it's college students who work at those
 places and you're lucky if you get a good one.

 >>Where has Joyce Chen's Chinese resaurant gone? It was on Stuart St, but closed
 >>between Oct 93 and Oct 94. Disastrous loss!!
       >snip<
 >a choice, she goes elsewhere.  It's edible, but nothing special.

       Yeah, definitely not a major loss.  I always wondered about the
 appeal.  There are a lot of other places -- in Brookline on Beacon St (do
 I remember the name -- no, that would be helpful --;-)  and there's
 Cheng-Sho (sp?) on Mass Ave between Porter & Harvard squares (?) that
 used to be better, but is still good & they have vegetarian peking
 raviolis which are hard to find most places.

 my uninvited opinion
 ;-)
 [email removed]
 Thea Frost
Marcel L.Harvard University, Cambridge, MassachusettsFeb 23, 1995
 Thea F. wrote:

 >Marcel L. wrote:

 >>someone else whose name has been lost to editing wrote:

 >>>Where has Joyce Chen's Chinese resaurant gone? It was on Stuart St, but closed
 >>>between Oct 93 and Oct 94. Disastrous loss!!
 >     >snip<
 >>a choice, she goes elsewhere.  It's edible, but nothing special.

 >     Yeah, definitely not a major loss.  I always wondered about the
 >appeal.  There are a lot of other places -- in Brookline on Beacon St (do
 >I remember the name -- no, that would be helpful --;-)  and there's
 >Cheng-Sho (sp?) on Mass Ave between Porter & Harvard squares (?) that
 >used to be better, but is still good & they have vegetarian peking
 >raviolis which are hard to find most places.

 Perhaps you were referring to Chef Chang's on Beacon St. near Park Drive
 in Brookline?  They can be pretty good--I'm told that the Beijing Duck
 is excellent, although I have never had it there.  I find that their
 dishes range from mediocre to excellent (sometimes the same dish,depending
 on who is cooking that night, I guess).  I haven't been there much since
 I moved out of the neighborhood (used to live 1 block away), I guess
 because of the inconsistency.  I did have some great meals there though.

 I was not impressed with Changsho, however.  I only went once, about 9
 months ago.  I really wanted to like the place, as it was on a very
 short list of possibilities for our wedding rehearsal dinner.  It was
 really nicely decorated, and the staff was very friendly.  The food,
 though, was just not so great.  Portions were small, but presented
 nicely; however they were on the bland side, and somewhat overcooked.
 Not bad, just not so good.

 There are a lot of good Chinese restaurants in Boston, there just aren't
 many which have good Szechuan (Sichuan, or however you want to spell it),
 Hunan, or Northern style cooking.  Lately, I have even been thinking of
 giving New Shanghai in Chinatown another try, after a disastrous night
 there soon after it opened.  I have tried Chef Lee's in Somerville
 (ok but not worth the drive for me), and Chef Chow's in Brookline
 (not as good as Chef Chang's IMO).  Any other suggestions?

 Also, I would like to express my sadness that the management of
 Peking Cuisine in Chinatown has removed most of the interesting
 dishes from their English menu (at least) as a result of the change
 from China Grove.  You can still get (at least some) of the dishes
 if you know what to ask for (or possibly if you read Chinese), but
 this new policy reverses their previously enlightened idea of putting
 everything on the menu, and letting customers decide what they wanted
 to eat.  Also, thumbs down on keeping the glowing China Grove review
 up outside, especially considering one of the major points was their
 adventurous English language menu which no longer exists.

 Marcel
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