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22 posts · Sep 15, 1994 to Dec 27, 1996

Barbara G.Delphi ( email, 800-695-4005 voice)Sep 15, 1994
 Eric H. wrote:

 >I'd like to point them towards some really good seafood, Italian
 >and/or local food. 7-10 dollar entrees. Good wine values, etc...
 >Is Legal Seafood as good as the hype, or is it all hype?
 >Locations are appreciated as well.
 >

 If you are thinking about Legal, which IS very good,
 you are not talking about $7 - $10 entrees.

 >folks. If you feel like making some recommendations, I'd like
 >Boston/Cambridge or North Endish locales. Not too terribly

 I really enjoy Del Conte's on Salem Street
 in the North End.
 They do not have a liquor license, just beer and wine.  They
 get really crowded, but if the "p's" will eat at 6:00
 it should be OK.  There isn't a bar or anything to wait at,
 so if you have to wait, the p's will be on the street.
 But, you can call, they'll tell you what the scoop is,
 wait-wise and it'll be the straight scoop.
Barbara G.Delphi ( email, 800-695-4005 voice)Sep 16, 1994
 Someone wrote:

 >Il Panino, Parmentier Street.  Good pasta dishes -- I'm fond of their
 >gnocchi.  They also have a restaurant on Mass Ave in Cambridge, but I've
 >never eaten there.

 I concur.  Il Panino is better than average.  I am always surprised
 to see the lines for Picolo Venezia (sp?) which to me is
 awful food and worse (none) ambience.  I feel
 embarrassed that people think that this is the North End.
 But Il Panino is fair prices, clean and relaxed.
 Good luck!
 Barbara
NightflyNETCOM On-line servicesSep 16, 1994
 Eric H. wrote:

    My value-oriented folks will be making a much-deserved visit
    to Boston and points north this fall. I'd like to give them
    some rest recommendations for their trip. I know that there is
    a Boston restaurant list at an FTP site somewhere. Can someone
    tell me where that might be? I've eaten at Biba, Olive's and
    Rocco's; enjoyed them all- but these are too pricey for my
    folks. If you feel like making some recommendations, I'd like
    Boston/Cambridge or North Endish locales. Not too terribly
    touristy. Like, those lobster houses seem too tourist oriented.
    I'd like to point them towards some really good seafood, Italian
    and/or local food. 7-10 dollar entrees. Good wine values, etc...
    Is Legal Seafood as good as the hype, or is it all hype?
    Locations are appreciated as well.

 The fish quality tends to be high at Legal, but it's on the pricey side.
 I would recommend Skipjack's as a better value (corner of Clarendon and St
 James opposite Trinity Church in Copley Square).

 Other good values:

 In the north end:

 Giorgio's Pizza, Salem Street.  Downside: this place is popular and
 sometimes you can have a problem finding a seat.

 La Famiglia, Salem Street.  Used to be big portions for cheap, was good
 last time I went.  I heard once that it's gone downhill some -- also, it
 can be very crowded.

 Il Panino, Parmentier Street.  Good pasta dishes -- I'm fond of their
 gnocchi.  They also have a restaurant on Mass Ave in Cambridge, but I've
 never eaten there.

 In Chinatown:

 Asian Garden, corner of Beach and Harrison (basement)

 Ho Yuen Ting, 13 1/2 Hudson Street

 East Ocean City, Beach Street

 Ba Dat, Harrison Avenue

 Pho Pasteur, Washington Street

 The first three are Chinese, the last two are Vietnamese, all are very
 good and have a good selection of affordable entrees.

 In Cambridge:

 Any of the Indian restaurants in Central Square (Shalimar and Oh Calcutta
 are my personal favorites).  All are good values, especially the lunch
 buffet.
Barbara G.Delphi ( email, 800-695-4005 voice)Sep 22, 1994
 Bill R. wrote:

 >range.  I haven't been to No Name lately, and I know it's not supposed to
 >be as good as it once was..  is it still in the "under $10" price range for
 >entrees?

 I went to No Name last month for the first time in ten years.
 I was disappointed by it.  I had broiled salmon, which was
 good and slighy overcooked, though I asked for it to be
 "slightly underdone"  (I feel stupid asking for fish "rare")
 It was good, not great.  Certainly nice and fresh.  it hink
 I think the fish was about $14.00.  My companion had sauteed
 lobster, scallops and shrimp, which was $20.00; I didn't
 taste it (it was a quasi-business meal), but I thought it was
 a tiny portion.

 If you go, remeber there is a very limited menu. They do not
 take credit cards.  There is no atmosphere. There is no liquor
 license, just beer and wine.

 Durgin Park was a good idea.

 Barbara
Robert B.University of PennsylvaniaMar 1, 1995
 Someone wrote:
 : could someone please recommend some good restaurants in Boston--a
 : special occasion and we will be coming in from out of town. Thank you.
 : <fitting.epas.utoronto.ca>

 Olive's
 10 City Sq
 Charlestown

 Yuppie, young, beautiful crowd. Good atmosphere, somewhat loud, and very
 good foor at reasonable prices. Ask around if you wish...
Barbara G.Delphi Internet Services CorporationMar 2, 1995
 (Robert B. writes: >

 > Olive's
 > 10 City Sq
 > Charlestown
 >
 > Yuppie, young, beautiful crowd. Good atmosphere, somewhat loud, and very
 > good foor at reasonable prices. Ask around if you wish...

 Yes, but I suggest you go early (6:00).  They don't take reservations and it
 gets quite mobbed. If it is just two of you, you can eat at the bar. Or I have
 eaten elsewhere and gone there for dessert, coffee and brandy at the bar later
 on.

 For another idea, Dali's on Kirkland Street in Somerville.  A tapas
 restaurant.  Lots of little appetizer sized bits and pieces, great house red
 and a convivial atmosphere.

 Good luck.

 Barbara
Marcel L.Harvard University, Cambridge, MassachusettsMar 2, 1995
 Barbara G. wrote:

 >(Robert B. writes: >

 >> Olive's
 >> 10 City Sq
 >> Charlestown
 >>
 >Yes, but I suggest you go early (6:00).  They don't take reservations and it

 You can go at 6pm, but if you want a table and you don't want to wait
 for an hour, I would suggest 5pm.  Last time I was there (a weekday),
 I got there at 5:15, and got one of the last few tables.  It was full
 by 5:30 or so.  I have been past there on weekends, and have seen the
 line forming at 4:30 (they open at 5).  If you can't get in, and are
 hungry, try Figs, which is down the street.  Same owners, more cramped,
 much less elaborate, less expensive.  Great unusual pizzas and pasta--
 desserts are excellent too. Figs is quite popular too, though, so
 you may face a wait there too.

 >For another idea, Dali's on Kirkland Street in Somerville.  A tapas
 >restaurant.  Lots of little appetizer sized bits and pieces, great house red
 >and a convivial atmosphere.

 Second the rec. for Dali's.  Other worthwhile places include:
 Elephant Walk (Union Sq. Somerville, or Beacon St. on the Boston/
 Brookline border) for Cambodian/French food. Trendy, sort of
 urban atmosphere in Somerville (haven't been to Beacon St. yet).

 East Coast Grill (Inman Sq., Cambridge)--Grilled foods, often spicy,
 hugely popular, very cramped and noisy.

 Alloro (Hanover St., North End)--Italian/Mediterranean.  Excellent
 food in a small storefront restaurant.  No desserts, so go to
 Mike's pastry or one of the many caffes for cannoli or tiramisu
 afterwards.  Careful of the wine list--there are some poorly chosen
 bottles there (e.g. the only chianti on the list last time I went--
 shame!).

 Another idea might be East Ocean City in Chinatown.  Very good
 seafood (e.g. steamed whole fish, spicy fried squid), and other
 dishes too (don't forget a vegetable--like baby bok choy, or
 sauteed pea plant tops), in a nicer atmosphere than most Chinatown
 places.  Excellent service.  Free pickled cabbage to start, and
 sweet red bean soup for dessert (at least when we have gone).

 There are many, many more.  Have fun.

 Marcel
SEARCHFIRMAmerica Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)Mar 21, 1995
 Brew Moon on Boylston Street has super food at reasonable prices as well
 as a master brewer that produces the best beer in Beantown.
Barbara G.Delphi Internet Services CorporationMar 24, 1995
 In article , [email removed] (SEARCHFIRM)
 writes: > Brew Moon on Boylston Street has super food at reasonable prices as
 well > as a master brewer that produces the best beer in Beantown.

 >
 I respectfully beg to differ.
 I think the beer at John Harvard is better, plus each night, they have one
 beer that they dispense and serve "cask conditioned". This means it is
 dispensed by pumping it thru the tap, as opposed to forcing thru the tap with
 CO2. The effervencse is all natural. You don't get any sensation of gasiness
 with cask conditoned ale. Plus is is served at cellar temperature. Plus is has
 not been pastuerized.

 Plus, the food there is awfully good!

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Russ B.Acuity Software, Inc.Feb 29, 1996
    Dave J. wrote:
 >
 > Looking for a really good seafood restaurant in the Boston
 metro area.
 > Been to Legals (who hasn't), and really don't care for the
 crowds, long wait,
 > and the way they pack people in.
 > Price, as long as it's < $100 per person. 8-)
 > Area, doesn't matter, I'm staying up in Burlington.
 > How's Mortons in Boston?? Any comments for a good steak
 house as well? Been
 > pleased with the food and service at Morton's in Chicago
 and Denver, although
 > somewhat pricey. I remember going to the Hilltop somewhere
 in the Boston area.
 > Are they still in business?
 >
 The Morton's in Boston is very good. I would rate it best in
 Boston for steak, pending the opening of the Palm later this
 spring. The Hilltop was still there when I last looked, but
 I do not like it. Another place for Steak and Seafood is
 Cafe V in Ken's Steak house in Framingham. This is a small
 restaurant within a restaurant. The beef is excellent (not
 not at the level of Morton's), and the Plamked Scrod is
 great.

 For a little bit of a drive, try Ron's Landing in Hampton
 Beach, NH. It is less than an hour from Burlington. The
 seafood is good, as is the ocean view from most tables.
Remy S.Tufts UniversityFeb 29, 1996
 Someone wrote:
 : There's a newish place on Newbury
 : Street near Massachusetts Avenue that gets consistently good
 : reviews (sorry, but the name escapes me), but again it was too
 : pricey for me.

       I think you're referring to the Capital Grille which is on the
 corner of Newbury and Mass. Ave.  It's quite good but I found Grill 23
 which is in the same neighborhood (Berkeley St.), and in the same price
 range (extremely expensive), to be better although I've only been to each of
 them once...they're not the kind of places one can go everyday...unless,
 of course, one is Donald Trump or Steve Forbes ;)

                                           remy
Marcel L.Harvard University, Cambridge, MassachusettsMar 1, 1996
 Rob G. wrote:

 >Note new cross-posting to ne.food, where these questions might
 >get more answers...

 >Dave J. wrote:

 >>  Looking for a really good seafood restaurant in the Boston
 >>  metro area.  Been to Legals (who hasn't), and really don't

 >Skipjacks (Brookline Village, Harvard Square) is the common
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 >alternative.  You could also try the Daily Catch (North End,

 Just wanted to point out that Skipjack's Harvard Square location
 has been closed for about a year or so.  They still have the
 Brookline Village and Back Bay (Clarendon St) locations, though.
 Turner Fisheries (in the Westin) is also supposed to be good--
 I have only been there for their excellent (but expensive) brunch.

 Grillfish in the South End is supposed to be good and slightly
 cheaper.  I haven't been there yet, though (anyone else have comments?).

 Along with the Daily Catch, you could try Giacamo's (North End and
 South End locations).  These are storefront restaurants and can
 be cramped and noisy, but have very good Italian seafood.  Or for
 a slightly different twist, try Chinese seafood at East Ocean City,
 Grand Chau Chow or Ocean Wealth (all in Chinatown).

 >>  How's Mortons

 >isn't an issue for you).  There's a newish place on Newbury
 >Street near Massachusetts Avenue that gets consistently good
 >reviews (sorry, but the name escapes me), but again it was too

 The Capital Grille?

 Another place which I have heard pretty good things about is
 Grill 23 (Berkeley St.)--haven't been there, though.
Mary M.Wilder InterNet Gateway (wing.net)Mar 2, 1996
 Someone wrote:

 :  Looking for a really good seafood restaurant in the Boston metro area.
 :  Been to Legals (who hasn't), and really don't care for the crowds, long wait,
 :  and the way they pack people in.
 :  Price, as long as it's < $100 per person. 8-)
 :  Area, doesn't matter, I'm staying up in Burlington.
 :  How's Mortons in Boston?? Any comments for a good steak house as well? Been
 :  pleased with the food and service at Morton's in Chicago and Denver, although
 :  somewhat pricey. I remember going to the Hilltop somewhere in the Boston area.
 :  Are they still in business?

 The Hilltop is still around, located in Saugus.  I don't know that I'd
 really call them a "steakhouse", though, or at least not in the same
 breath as Morton's (and certainly not Capitol Grill).

 Burlington doesn't have that much to write home about, but there's a place
 on Mall Road called Dandelion Green that used to do a pretty good steak (I
 haven't been in years).  Also, there's a Korean barbecue restaurant on
 Route 3A in Burlington called New Jang Su -- this is my favorite
 restaurant in Burlington.  If there's a better one out there, I haven't
 found it.

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Jim B.Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.Mar 5, 1996
 The Cornucopia (sp) on Atlantic Ave has a mostly seafood menu --
 southwestern style.  We have had several very good meals there.
JoanieDana-Farber Cancer InstituteMar 6, 1996
 Marcel L. wrote:

 > Grillfish in the South End is supposed to be good and slightly
 > cheaper.  I haven't been there yet, though (anyone else have comments?).

 Grillfish is extremely reasonably priced, I don't think anything was
 over $13 on the menu.  I thought it was pretty good and it's got a
 funky atmosphere with the industrial looking interior.  It's on the
 beginning of Columbus Ave., by the intersection of Berkeley.  Not quite
 the South End.

 Joanie
Mary M.Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; ()Sep 29, 1996
 Someone wrote:

 : Any suggestions of good reasonably priced restaurants in Boston.  Staying
 : at the Marriot Copely Square.

 It's hard to say without you specifying some things, like what you
 consider to be "reasonably priced" and what kind of food you like.  Maybe
 you could elaborate on that, and get some better data.  In the meanwhile,
 here are a couple of my likes and don't-likes in that area:

 - Skipjack's, corner of St. James and Tremont.  I think this is the best
 bet in that area for decent seafood without paying an arm and a leg.

 - Brunch at Turner Fisheries at the Westin.  Not cheap, but it's a great
 brunch.

 - Yoshi's, on Boylston Street near Exeter (between Exeter and Fairfield).
 Last time I ate there, the sushi was superb.

 Places that I would avoid:

 - Any of the food courts in Copley Place or the Prudential Center.  You
 can eat food court food anywhere.

 - Legal Seafood's in the Prudential Center.  For all I know, the food is
 great, but the place is always mobbed.  No thanks.

 - The restaurant on top of the Pru.  The view is spectacular but, like all
 restaurants on top of tall buildings, the food is hyper-expensive and of
 indifferent quality.  They're always threatening to upgrade it, but I
 don't believe 'em.

 - Kaya on Boylston Street.  Rice is gummy and weird, bulgogi is okay but
 not great, sushi was ehhh.

 The minuses or neutrals outnumber the pluses, and that's why I don't
 generally go here when I want to eat out (although I will go for Yoshi's).
 I'm more likely to go to Chinatown if I eat out, or to Pho Pasteur in
 Allston, or to Pagliuca's in the North End (get the fresh fusilli).

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Robert M.AT&T WorldNet ServicesSep 30, 1996
 I like Joe's at Newberry and Dartmouth ?  Great prime rib with the bone
 in for less than twenty bucks..........including yorkshire pudding!  Menu
 with great variety.........
Eric M.Tufts UniversityOct 1, 1996
 I highly recommend Ristorante Toscano on 41-47 Charles Street.  It is one
 of the nicest restaurants in Boston (I should know, I live there).
 Excellent food, I recommend the specials. Also, the wine list is fairly
 extensive.  In addition, its in Beacon Hill, a beautiful area of the city.
 You should make reservations though, the number is 617.723.4090.  Only two
 caveats, the only take American Express, and the service can be a tad
 pretentious at times.  The Four Seasons down the street is a nice place for
 after dinner drinks if you are so inclined.

 Eric J. Del Monaco
 Tufts University

 Neil C. wrote in article
 ...
 > Can anyone recommend some good restaurants for a special occasion in
 > Boston?
 >
 > Neil B. Cohen
 > Professor of Law
 > Brooklyn Law School
 > [email removed]
 >
Rosalina Y.World TimesDec 18, 1996
 For French, try Hammersley's Bistro on Tremont Street in the South End.
 Very cozy. Great food.  Also Duckworth Lane in Charlestown.

 Also worth a try is Pignoli, Ambrosia on Huntington and Tuscano on Charles
 Street.

 If you're up for Spanish, Dali in Cambridge has great atmosphere and
 wonderful food.

 Have fun.

 ry

 Someone wrote:

 >I'm visiting Boston early next year and am looking for the top
 >restaurants, preferably Italian, French, Continental, and Californian
 >(Nouvelle) cuisines.  For my purposes at the moment, please forget
 >price. Consider food, wine, atmosphere, and service.  If you only had 3
 >meals, where would you eat in Boston or surroundings (10 minute car
 >ride)?
 >
 >I look forward to your responses.
 >
 >Thanks in advance,
 >
 >David
AnonymousDec 19, 1996
 For great Chinese cuisine, about 20 minutes out of Boston, North on Route
 1, you really have to eat at Weyhlu's.    Excellent Italian at Villa
 Francesca in the North End.

 Steve
 In Town Reservations/Travel Network
 Provincetown MA 02657
 FAX: 508-487-6140    PH:  508-487-1883
 E-Mail:  [email removed]      http://www.travnet.com/provincetown
ChristineHarvard University University Information SystemsDec 19, 1996
 David W. wrote:

 > I'm visiting Boston early next year and am looking for the top
 > restaurants, preferably Italian, French, Continental, and Californian
 > (Nouvelle) cuisines.  For my purposes at the moment, please forget
 > price. Consider food, wine, atmosphere, and service.  If you only had 3
 > meals, where would you eat in Boston or surroundings (10 minute car
 > ride)?
 >
 > I look forward to your responses.
 >
 > Thanks in advance,
 >
 > David

 Helmand in Cambridge is an Afghan restaurant that is highly regarded.
 Price is moderate but the food is trully exceptional.  Reservations
 recommended (they will be slightly rude to you if you don't have them,
 and you will likely be turned away during peak hours).  Parking is
 challenging, but there is a mall across the street that has a pay
 parking lot.  Try the pumpkin with beef sauce dish (on the menu as an
 side dish or entree).  Sounds bland and wierd, but it is intensely
 flavored. Words cannot describe it.  It is a MUST.  Really.  Intensely
 fantastic.  If I had to choose a last meal, that would be in it.
 (causal attire OK, but many customers are in proper attire)

 I like Toscano restaurant on Charles Street in Boston for Northern
 Italian Cuisine.  I am not very familiar with the North End (italian
 district) restaurants, though.  So I'm not sure how it compares to the
 best restaurants there.  Price is fairly high, but not outrageous.
 Valet parking.  Proper attire (This may not be required, though)

 Rialto, at the Charles Hotel in Cambridge, is one of the areas more
 renown restaurants.  I had a mixed experience there, but many others
 have had wonderful meals there.   Mediterranean Cuisine, with French
 leanings.  Reservations required.  Garage parking available.  Proper
 attire.

 I don't know if we have any trully French restaurants that are worth
 going to.  Most of the good ones are really mixtures of cuisines.
 Speaking of wich...  The Elephant Walk in Somerville is a French
 Cambodian restaurant.  Very good food, funky atmosphere.  Street
 parking is usually possible.  Half of the menu is Cambodian, half
 french.  The Cambodian side gets more raves.  Moderate price.  There's
 one in Brookline, too.  But I don't think it is quite as good or
 interesting as the original Somerville location.  Casual

 The only thing "californian" we have here is the California pizza
 kitchen! We do have our own brand of ecclectic cuisine.  I'll let
 someone else recommend something in that area.

 For seafood with an Italian bent (translate - garlic!!) try the Daily
 Catch in the North End (Boston).  They also have a few other
 restaurants that are larger and more conveniently located.  Casual

 Well, that's more than 3.  Helmand is my #1 recommendation.  The others
 are up to you.

 Christine
Paul S.The Internet ConnectionDec 27, 1996
 Hey, Thanks for the recomendation!

 Paul Sussman
 Chef/Owner of Daddy-OsJohn E. wrote:
 >
 > OK, time for my two cents.  I don't live in Boston, but I went to college there
 > and still have friends in the area who I visited within the last year.  That
 > being the case, here are some of the places that they took me out to and that
 > I enjoyed:
 >
 > (btw, for reviews check out: http://www.cuisinenet.com)
 >
 > Biba
 > 272 Boylston Street, Boston, MA
 > Continental Eclectic
 > 617-426-7878
 >
 > Casa Romero
 > 30 Gloucester Street, Boston, MA
 > Mexican
 > 617-536-4341
 >
 > Les Zygomates
 > 124 South Street, Boston , MA
 > French Bistro Eclectic
 > 617-524-5108
 >
 > And, for a fun brunch:
 >
 > Daddy-O's
 > 134 Hampshire Street, Cambridge, MA
 > American
 > 617-354-8371
 > 617-354-6077 fax
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