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An embarrassment of riches

2 posts · Oct 30, 1995 to Nov 7, 1995

AnonymousDelphi ( email, 800-695-4005 voice)Oct 30, 1995
 Biba/Rialto/Olives are brilliant restaurants managed by the current generation
 of hot chefs.  I would put Biba first because of the really imaginative food,
 Rialto second for food but with a perhaps more luxurious decor, and Olives
 third -- wonderful food
 but a miserable dining experience because of the no reservations policy.  the
 other restaurants are more traditional -- excellent in their way -- but more
 traditional.  Biba/Rialto/Olives are the restaurants that foodies in other
 cities want to eat in when
  they come to Boston.  Be aware that dinner in any of these restaurants can run
 far more than $125 for two, especially if you haver drinks before dinner (they
 don't tell you what drinks cost).  A couple of bottles of wine may set you back
 $90, even if you
 are being careful.  All that said, go and enjoy.  Have a bottle of wine instead
 of pre-dinner drinks and you can enjoy the rest of the menu without fear.

 Corrections and comments from others are invited.

 [email removed]
Tony C.Boston Automation, Inc.Nov 7, 1995
 In article , [email removed] (Michael Goodman)
 wrote:

 >My wife's employer has generously offerred a $125 gift certificate to
 >one of the following Boston area restaurants:

 Wow.  Weird how they chose this particular list, but let's see...

 As someone else has commented, Biba, Rialto, and Olive's are the three
 from this list that are favored by Boston's "foodies."  That means you
 can expect inventive cuisine and a generally good experience, as long
 as you are not extremely traditional in your thinking about food (if
 you really prefer very traditional foods with very traditional
 preparations, you'd probably do better somewhere where that is the
 restaurant's primary focus).

 The other thing about the in places like Biba, Rialto, and Olive's is
 that you will almost inevitably find crowds, and it is unlikely that
 you'll have a very quiet, intimate evening at any of these places.
 It's not that they're really that noisy, but each of them has a
 certain "scene" atmosphere which, if that really turns you off, you'd
 best avoid.  In general, these are the sorts of places to go when
 you're looking for something different, and each will offer a dining
 experience you will remember for a while.  I love places like these,
 but I am pretty much a foodie myself, so my opinion may not be
 relevant.

 As to the others, I don't know *all* of these from personal
 experience, but...

 >Ritz Carlton

 Dependable hotel dining room, like all Ritz Carlton dining rooms
 around the world.  Probably slightly on the stuffy side in the "Jacket
 Required" sense, but that's no big deal.

 >Locke Ober

 Never been there, but I've heard it described as Old Boston
 personified in a restaurant.  It's very traditional ... which could be
 good or bad, depending on your tastes.

 >Bay Tower Room

 Great view, adequate but unexciting food.  Probably the most romantic
 room in Boston, though, with a great view of Boston Harbor (and the
 city around it) from just about every seat.  The place has a tiered
 design (to make sure your view is unobstructed) and a subdued mood (to
 make sure you have the privacy to enjoy it).  If you're looking for a
 romantic evening in lovely setting, with food that is competently
 prepared but unexciting, this is your place.  On the other hand, you
 can also enjoy the view from the lounge.  I think I'd have a few
 drinks here and then move on to somewhere else for dinner.  Be
 advised, though, drinks here are not cheap.

 >L'Espalier

 Was really big once, nowadays its star is fading.  Expensive, mostly
 French menu.  Attentive, though somewhat stuffy (pretentious?)
 service.  For my money, if I want French I go to Julien at the Hotel
 Meridien.  Better food, better service, gorgeous old room, better
 prices.  Others swear by Maison Robert at Old City Hall.  But neither
 of those is on your list... :-)

 >Morton's Steak House

 Steak, steak, and more steak.  If that's what you're into, go for it.
 so S. wrote:

 >Bostonian

 The restaurant is called "Seasons," and it seems to serve as training
 ground for many of the city's celebrity chefs.  Lydia Shire (Biba) and
 Jasper White (formerly of Jasper's, now retired) both did stints here.
 I don't know who the current chef is; I think it's changed since the
 last time I was here (about a year ago).  This place does seem to
 attract top-notch kitchen talent, but the focus of the place does
 change a bit with each change in the kitchen, so it can sometimes be
 hard to predict what you'll find when you get there.  Still, I can't
 say I've ever had a bad meal at Seasons.  The menu changes seasonally
 and is supposed to stress natively-available, fresh ingredients of the
 season.  The portions are adequate but not huge (quality is stressed
 over quantity).  Nice (somewhat generic hotel restaurant) room
 overlooking the Faneuil Hall complex (if you are seated on that side).
 Avoid the lounge downstairs, where a glass of wine will cost you as
 much as a bottle at retail.  Otherwise, the prices are reasonable.

 As pointed out by another poster, $125 will not necessarily buy you a
 complete fancy dinner for two with drinks, dessert and tip at any of
 these places, so if you're not willing to chip in a few bucks
 yourself, be careful.

 I think (you can probably tell this) I'd recommend Seasons at the
 Bostonian if you're looking for a relatively low-key evening with very
 good food and a few (but not too many) surprises.  The one drawback
 here is that I can't vouch for the food under the current chef.  But
 history suggests it will be good, as it's always been.

 If you want to venture out and sample some of Boston's restaurant
 "scene", then I'd do Biba, Olive's, or Rialto, probably in that order
 (though I'm sure others would order them differently).  But be aware
 that these will be somewhat livelier (and more crowded) evenings.

 The other places, I think I'd leave for the tourists, except for the
 ones I didn't comment on, which I know nothing about.

 But of course, that's just me.  Others can (and probably will) give
 you different advice.  Good luck... let us know what you picked, and
 how it worked out!

 -Tony
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