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Bill M.C-9 Communications (InterNet Gate)Aug 7, 1994
-> >I hear that crawfish is out of season in August.  Can anyone
-> >suggest a restaurant in either Lafayette or New Orleans or
-> >any town in between where boiled crawfish would be available
-> >at that time? (ie. mid-August?)
->
-> When crawfish are out of season, what you'll get are frozen crawfish.
-> The texture is like cardboard and the taste equivalent.  Call one of
-> the crawfish harvesting shops over in Gretna and see if they have any
-> fresh, then you'll know what you're getting.
->
-> Rob LAke
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If you are onlyspeaking of boiled crawfish, I basically agree,but if you are considering other dishes, etoufee, for example, try Robin's in Henderson.  The texture may not be quite as good as when in season, but I would hate to live off the difference.
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Thanx to
        [email removed] (Donald R. Newcomb)
        [email removed] (Bill Thomason)
        [email removed] (Edward J. Branley)
        Lori R Creel
        Ashley Atwood
        [email removed] (Larry Fishbach)
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and     Mark (M.) Wisdom , keeper of rec.food.veg's
        World List of Vegetarian Restaurants.

Be sure to call ahead to make sure of the hours, prices, and get directions. Even places not marked as on a bus or trolley route, may be, so call and ask.

Remember to check the Yellow Pages.  There is usually a "Restaurant Guide" sorted by cuisine.  Check for: Health Foods, Natural Foods & Vegetarian.  Also for national cuisines that might have vegetarian options: Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean, Lebanese, Middle East, Thai, Vietnamese.

(#) entries in the list were enhanced from the "Vegetarian Journal's Guide to Natural Food Restaurants in the U.S. and Canada" from the Vegetarian Resource Group, copyright 1993, Avery Publishing Group, Inc. Garden City Park, NY. Ordering and subscription info from:
    Vegetarian Resource Group, Box 1463, Baltimore, MD  21203

(*) entries in the list were enhanced from the "vegetable lover's guide to new orleans restaurants" by gay sperling, copyright 1993.  You can order a copy by sending $ 7.95 to:
    vegetable lover's guide, 1001 Loyola Ave. Dept 208, New Orleans, LA 70113
This book is aimed at a wider audience then vegetarians and vegans.  Also has recipes.  I suspect you can also buy the guide at Whole Foods Market et al.

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#All Natural Foods and Deli, 5517 Magazine St., New Orleans.  891-2651. Several miles from the Marriot.

Anacapri, 320 Decatur, New Orleans.  522-9056.  Italian, will cook vegetarian to order.  Walking distance from the Marriot.

The Apple Seed Shoppe, 336 Camp St., New Orleans.  529-3442.  Vegetarian & natural foods.  About 6 blocks from the Marriot.

Bacco, 310 Chartres St., New Orleans.  522-2426.  Italian.  Walking distance from the Marriot.

*Back to the Garden, 920 St. Charles Ave., near Lee Circle, New Orleans. Smoothies.  Vegetarian.  Inexpensive.  10 blocks from the Marriot.

*Bayona, 430 Dauphine St., French Quarter, New Orleans.  525-4455.  New World cuisine.  7 blocks from the Marriot.

*Bayou Ridge Cafe, 437 Esplanade Ave., French Quarter, New Orleans.  949-9912. Multi-cuisine.  A dozen blocks from the Marriot.

Bennachin, 133 North Carrollton, New Orleans.  Vegetarian soul-food, jambalaya and African vegetarian dishes.  A few miles from the Marriot.

Cafe Sbisa, 1101 Decatur St., New Orleans.  522-5565. Vegetarian friendly.

East African Restaurant, 1643 Gentilly Boulevard, New Orleans.  943-0787. Vegan.  2 miles from the Marriot.

Jack Sprat's Vegetarian Grill, South Carrollton Ave., Uptown New Orleans. Just off of the uptown street car line - a 40 minute ride from the Marriot.

*Louisiana Pizza Kitchen, 95 French Market Place (in the old French Market), New Orleans.  522-9500.  Gourmet pizza, vegetarian friendly.  10 blocks from the Marriot.

Marty's Health Food Cafe and Coffee House, 207 Dauphine St., French Quarter, New Orleans.  522-5222.  Vegetarian New Orleans specialties.  5 blocks from the Marriot.

*Mike's on the Avenue, 628 St. Charles Ave., New Orleans.  523-1709.  Cross cultural cuisine.  7 blocks from the Marriot.

#Nature Lovers, 3014 Cleary Ave., Metairie.  887-4929.  Natural foods store. Deli and salad bar.  6 miles from the Marriot.

#*Old Dog-New Trick Cafe, 307 Exchange Alley, French Quarter, New Orleans. 522-4569.  Gourmet vegan/vegetarian.  A few blocks from the Marriot.

Samuari Sushi, 609 Decatur, New Orleans.  525-9595.  Sushi Bar.  A few blocks from the Marriott.

*Santa Fe Restaurant, 801 Frenchmen St.,New Orleans.  944-6854.  South-western with a New Orleans twist.  Over a dozen blocks from the Marriot.

Spunto Ristorante, 534 St. Louis St., New Orleans.  522-7455.  Italian.  8 blocks from the Marriott.

*Taj Mahal, 923 Metairie Road, Metairie.  836-6859.  Indian.  3 to 4 miles from the Marriott.

*Whole Food Market, 3135 Esplanade Ave., New Orleans.  943-1626.  Natural foods supermarket & restaurant.  Vegan friendly.  1 to 2 miles from the Marriot.  Take the Esplanade bus line.

*Vic's Kangaroo Cafe, Tchoupitoulas St., New Orleans.  524-4329.  Australian with a few veg dishes.  7 locks from the Marriot.
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good eating -len

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Someone wrote:

> >>Domilese's has many champions, but they use very
> >>small shrimp as well, and I'm not crazy about the place.
>
> I don't understand why Domilise's is so revered.  My assumption is that they
> have been resting on laurels for years and everyone's still subconsciously
> tasting that great debris poboy they got back in 1978. The reality is much
> more grim.
>
> Domilise's sucks.  Even Tom Fitzmorris says they slippin'.

Oh yeah, Tom Fitzmorris ... he's kinda slippin' himself!

The hot sausage po-boy with gravy and Creole mustard at Domilise's (one of which I had very recently), is an intensely religious experience.  I like the jernt, and da neighbahood.

I've never had a shrimp po-boy there in my life, and probably never will.  I get shrimp po-boys elsewhere.  I go to Domilise's for hot sausage po-boys with gravy.

> So flame me!

Flame on!  :-)

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>I've never had a shrimp po-boy there in my life, and probably never
>will.  I get shrimp po-boys elsewhere.  I go to Domilise's for hot
>sausage po-boys with gravy.
>

You know, this points out a big misconception that many people have about po-boy places--they all do a wide range of po-boys well.  I'm with you, Chuck.  I go to different places to get different sandwiches.  I almost always get italian sausage when I go to Lovecchio's on Harrison, hot sausage or a cheesburger po-boy at Parkway Bakery, ham with debris at Mother's, roast beef at Streetcar, etc.  Fried seafood is a tricky one.  Many places do shrimp and oyster po-boys well, but if they don't, that doesn't mean that the rest of their sandwiches are terrible.  Same thing the other way around. Parran's po-boys on Veterans in Metairie does fried seafood very well, but their roast beef is terrible.

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From [email removed] Mon Jan  9 06:20:36 1995
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Someone wrote:

> brigtsen's early bird dinner was very enjoyable and a bargain at $15...

An unbelievable bargain, actually.  When I last ate at Brigtsen's I had something from the regular menu, but my sister and her intended got the early bird special.  You get to choose between two appetizers, two entrees, and two desserts, plus coffee, for $15.  At one of the finest restaurants in town.  Amazing!

> la provence was the biggest disappointment...

You're not the first person I've heard this from.

I've never actually eaten at La Provence, but I've always wanted to.  My parents went there for my dad's birthday last year, and all they did was bitch about it.  I figured that it was just normal for them, because my mom doesn't like what she calls "weird" food (meaning she's not adventurous, and won't eat a LOT of stuff), and sometimes my parents seems very difficult to please in a restaurant.  And when my dad said how disappointing he found the heralded stuffed quail gumbo and thought mine was better (ack), I thought he was just being a dad.  So what's the deal with La Provence?  Has anyone else on the list eaten there?  They get consistently high ratings everywhere I see them written up, but I've heard this kind of disappointment from a few people.

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+Had some kind of problem that trashed messages between one of mine and John
+Souvestre's.  Sorry.

oh well... at least i don't have to start tracing through our network to see which network genius tried to be clever. better you than me i guess.

+> la provence was the biggest disappointment...
+
+You're not the first person I've heard this from.

The food wasn't bad, just wasn't what i was expecting (more my fault than theirs). The prices weren't as bad as i expected. I REALLY liked the interior of the restaurant with tables set around a central wood burning fireplace. I think I was expecting more Parisian french than country french. I had french onion soup (of course), dinner salad, and a sauteed trout with shallots and something else, and creme brulet. I think I'll try it again, but will know what to expect. I also think next time I'll try the north african lamb sausage (whatever that is), and the duck (with garlic sauce, i believe). Or maybe I'll do what I should have done in the first place in a restaurant I wasn't familiar with and asked the waitress for recommendations (but did hear the duck recommended to another table).

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did find a preliminary draft of an earlier message:

i'll rank best meals at christian's and galatoires and a special award to brigtsen's.

wednesday:
        l: shrimp poboy at lovechhio's thought was mediocre, but should
           have asked what to get here before i went.

thursday:
       d: bozo's fried shrimp/stuffed crab/french fries
          delicious as always, including the
          always memorable screw top glasses of wine.

       after: joe cool's christmas show at tips (in well founded
               anticipation of missing church over the weekend).

               show wasn't bad, i parked maybe 100 feet from the
               door, and there was only maybe a 100 people in the joint
               if that. not unusual for a gospel show, not too much
               bar sales, the bartenders kind of starved that night.

               later: c.j. chenier cutting up over at mid city bowling.

saturday:
         d: galatoires - reveillon dinner $30!
            shrimp remoulade, turtle soup, salad, trout menuiere, cup custard,
            fresh french bread.
            $30 even included a glass of wine and coffee (which was NEEDED).
            {for ed - they have escargot on the menu}

sunday:
         l: christmas buffet at the Veranda (hotel inter-continental). they had
            a lot more stuff, but this is what i remember having:
            boiled shrimp, crab claws, salad, ersters rockefeller, bacon,
            sausage, stuffed crab, turkey, dressing, beef wellington (seconds),
            floating island...
            oh yeah, lots and lots and lots of cheap champagne.

monday:
            Pre-evening - apparently saw ray the buggy man - didn't get
            a chance to say hello, however.

         d: commander's palace
            turtle soup, fish (but i forgot what kind/how) but good, bread
            pudding souffle

tuesday:
        road trip to mississippi coast

         l: chimney's's (long beach - next to the (ha) yacht club). had fried
            shrimp which were very good. other peoples food looked very good
           also. worth going back to.

         d: lunch was too late so skipped. however looked at the menu at
           mary mahoney's (an antebellum place near the casino blight). menu
           looked good and will have to try on next extended stay.

wednesday:
        d: brigtsen's - early bird dinner, a real bargain for $15! interesting
           salad with citrus garnish and a citrus vinegarette, a well prepared
           fish, and desert.

thursday:
        l: #4 with onions and hickory sauce at bud's
        d: la provence - french onion soup, dinner salad, sauteed trout,
           creme brulet - one of the best in terms of atmosphere (a
           blazing fireplace in the center of the room, and most forgettable
           in terms of food. i think i will try it again, but have the duck
           instead. {they also had escargot on the menu, ed}.

friday: l: domilices - roast beef poboy
        d: christians:
            od'd on menieure sauce here but was well worth it.
            smoked softshell crab for an appetizer, trout amandine menuiere,
            and a brownie with homemade vanilla ice cream and praline sauce.

            the waiter didn't seem to know a whole lot about how the crab
            was prepared, but he did say it was alive before, during and after
            the smoking and battering up until it hit the oil. i commented that
            that must be one pissed of crab and could he find out some details
            like what kind of wood, oil etc. after a second request the answer
            of hickory chips came back for the wood and he thought peanut oil
            for the frying. oh well, maybe i can get the rest of the details
            next time.

saturday (new years eve):
           pre-lunch:
            aroma at central grocery picking up muffulettas to freeze
            and also a half for the plane trip back (ha).

            they will ship these puppies to you (i think it was $92 for
            6 air shipped). they will also ship olive salad (i think
            it was something like 6 quarts for $32).

        l: college inn - erster poboy

        night:
        too much rain for me to try to get down to jackson square.

        treasure chest casino - machine payout's are lousy. didn't gamble
        for very long. fireworks were pretty good and not much of a crowd.
        if they are indicative of the other casinos in new orleans and
        ones to come, i think they will go belly up once the fad wears
        off.

        caught 2nd (or 3rd?) set of iguana's at mid city.

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        also managed to get a belly load of wassail punch at a party.
        not sure what's in it, but it was tasty!

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Andy B-->Ed-->Andy B:

>>Best wishes for a more positive weekend.  I'm off to Poppy's Po-Boys on
>>Louisiana Ave.  Now *there's* a venerable institution...(and I hear they're
>>trying to sell the place)
>
>Man, there's a place I didn't realize even still existed.  Tell us about it
>after you go there.

I imagine that Poppy's resembles New Orleans lunch counters of quite a few years ago.  Poppy's is home to a delicious and cheap Shrimp Po-Boy special ($2.98).  The whole name of the place is Poppy's Poorboys (1803 Louisiana, right off St. Charles).

After the 'help' takes your order, an older woman with a red bouffant-beehive hairdo comes out of the back to ring you up.  She looks like a nint' ward Bunny Matthews cartoon come to life (Bunny is the guy who does the 'Vic an' Nat'ly cartoon).  Her forearms are dusted with flour which I assume comes from hand-breading the seafood.

The place is kind of dingy and less than clean, which is not unexpected.  I feel more comfortable there than I do at other scummy-but-yummy eateries such as the Hummingbird (amazing what we'll endure for our food down here).

I also tried the onion rings, which were some of the best I've had anywhere in town.  I imagine they slice and bread these by hand as well.

Andy B

I'd be interested to hear any other accounts of Poppy's, interesting stories, and especially the history behind the place.  Any connection to Poppy's Grill on St. Peter?

BTW, I'm not sure if Poppy's is 'trying to sell the place' or not.  I had been told that there was a 'for sale' sign out front, but it wasn't there when I went, and it was pretty busy, so I just enjoyed my sandwich.

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>I wonder if anyone else has ever fantasized about owning a po boy place --
>and not any kind of a Streetcar Sandwiches revisionist mesquite smoked duck
>abomination. I mean a blue collar place that does about 10 different po
>boys (roast beef, ham and cheese, sausage, shrimp, oyster, catfish,
>hamburger, etc.) and potato salad. Period.
>
>Just a little dream I have ...
>

You ain't alone, bra.  I'd love to have a little hole-in-the wall like dat. I've also dreamed about having a place like Port of Call.

But I will disagree that Streetcar is revisionist.  Nothing is revisionist about a po-boy place that uses Gendusa's bread.  You can get the best roast beef po-boy in town there, and the second best ham po-boy (Mother's still gets the award in that category).  Everyone's entitled to a creative streak. Now, if they were selling the oddball sandwiches and didn't sell the classics, that would be wrong.
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From [email removed] Fri Jan 13 21:24:58 1995
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>Also agreed. Thus my previous comment expressing disapointment at Emeril's.
>For some people the enjoyment of food equals the greatest pleasures in many
>people's lives. I don't care about the price if afterward all reasonable
>expectations were met or exceeded. It's the reverse that is frustrating.
>Going to NO at end of this month and need some current info or tips re:food
>scene. Was thinking of Galatoires or Arnauds as well as Court of Two Sisters
>brunch, Bayona, and Central grocery, Mothers, Messsin's and maybe Johnny's.
>Comments?

Here are some nutshell updates:

Galatoire's:  still up to its reputation.  Lan's revillion report to the list made me quite jealous.  :-)

Arnaud's:  was good at lunchtime last time I was there.  Check out Remoulade on Bourbon, which is supposed to be a "casual" version of Arnaud's.

Court of Two Sisters:  haven't been there in years.  It's got the rep of being a tourist trap, so it'll be interesting to see if anyone can confirm or deny that reputation.

Bayona:  love that garlic soup!

Mother's:  still the best (if not the cheapest) ham po-boy in town.

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>
> +Speaking about L'Economie, I hear that my old boss, Hubert Sandot has sold
> +that restaurant and is working mainly on his Magazine Street restaurant (I
> +can't recall the name, but it's the old Mais Oui).  If anybody can figure
> +out what I am talking about, I would like to hear some feedback on the new
> +place.  I always liked L'Economie even though it had its rough places.  The
> +food was interesting and the atmosphere was great at night.
>
> I think Taqueria Corona is where Mai Oui used to be. Haven't tried it, but
> someone on the list mentioned it.
>
Taqueria Corona is where it's been for a while now (and has spawned two other "branches"; they also run a booth at Jazzfest). Mais Oui became Martinique a year or so ago, with a Caribbean tone, as the name implies. Since Hubert Sandot's ownership, the name has remained the same, but it is now subtitled "a French Bistro." The food is more Frenchy than Caribbean, but reportedly very good (haven't tried it yet). In the spirit of mentioning restaurant relocations or expansions: the Louisiana Pizza Kitchen now has an Uptown outpost at the corner of St. Charles and Carrollton; it's where the Jeans shop was next to La Madeleine. And the Bangkok Thai restaurant has opened up next to Cooter Brown's. Riverbend is becoming a serious foodie detour, what with these new players, along with Frankie's Cafe, La Volage, and Hana.

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> my next-stool-neighbor had a
> chili,cheese, omelet & I need to get one too.

The same thing happened to me the first time that I went to Camellia Grill.  I decided to have the same thing as her, and I'm sure glad that I did.  That had to be the best omelet that I've ever tasted in my life.

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> > my next-stool-neighbor had a
> > chili,cheese, omelet & I need to get one too.
> I did.  That had to be the best omelet that I've ever tasted in my life.

Hey, you know around the corner in that general area of Camilia's is a cookie shop, the name of which eludes me, that sells the best friggin' cookies I have ever had anywhere.  Do yourself a favor and never go in there; you will CRAVE these things if you eat even one.

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Ah, the Camelia Grill. Perhaps the first and best fast food joint, the only one I've ever seen that needs (and has) a Maitre D'. Is it the only diner that looks like a plantation? Some of the staff have been there for fifty years; service is typically entertaining. If you want a tour of the kitchen, ask for directions to the bathroom. Perhaps shabby, but busy, and apparently clean.

Located where the streetcar turns at St. Charles and Carrolton, it's also the easiest place to see the levee and the river. Weather permitting, its a great place to work up an appetite or walk a meal off. The omlets! The burgers! The hot pecan pie with ice cream or melted cheese! Even natives will wait in line to eat there. I almost hate to pass the word out too much.

But gee, there are thousands of great little places in New Orleans, a dozen within a stome's throw Carrolton and St. Charles that serve great food. Red beans, rice, and hot sausage and a hunk of hard crust french bread. a dash of Tobasco and a draft and I'm in heaven, at most any New Orleans corner bar.

Bill (stuck in Virginia about 345 days a year) Dawes

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For us neighbors in the Audubon Park area who have been going to Tujaques for poboys for years plus, i can say we still refer to the sandwiches as Tujagues, a hangover from pre-WWII inherited from our Mommas and Daddys telling us "let's go get some poboys from Tujaques."  Sam Domilise ran the bar and was Captain of a certain Mardi Gras Krewe for years ( i won't tell which one!).  If anyone ever goes do Domilise's you might notice that the ladies makin' da sanwiches run a different operation from da bar boys (altho the same family).

While talkin' bout that neighborhood, very few, if any, of you know about Chisel's bar on da corner of Webster and Laurel Sts.  (now called Norby's Bar and Sandwich Shop).  A certain altar boy now a priest delivered poboys by bicycle in the neighborhood as Chisel's.  Its a great little place discovered by the Tulane Univ. crowd in the '70s and now forgotten.

This is one of the last neighborhoods where your Momma knows my Momma cause our Grandma's went to school together.

Someone wrote:

> This looks like one for Blake Pontchartrain.
>
> I was looking up Tulane in the Yellow Pages the other day and I came across
> an entry for Tujague's Sandwich Shop.  Strangely enough, the address for this
> Tujague's is 5240 Annunciation, which is the address of Domilise's.
>
> So I rang them up and asked what's the deal.  It turns out, according to the
> guy I talked to on the phone, that some Tujagues rented out the sandwich shop
> part of the place "up until about the end of the World War II."  Later in the
> conversation, he told me the sandwich operation hadn't been run by the
> Tujagues for "about 30 years."  So it's at least 30 years in the past and
> probably further gone than that.
>
> The Tujagues are not the same Tujagues that run the Tujague's Restaurant on
> Decatur St., again, according to the guy.
>
> Mysteriously, the entry in the yellow pages remains.
>
> Could some of the historians on the list enlighten us younger folks?
>
>
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