Last Sunday I had an opportunity to enjoy the brunch at the Sazerac room at the Fairmont hotel. This was a truly delightful experience. The three-course meal runs between $20 and $25, sans drinks & tip. I had the stuffed quail appetizer, crab omelet entre and custard for desert (many of the deserts were way off my diet). They had a crawfish stuffed puff-pastry which I should have ordered. My wife's lamb chops were excellent. The meal progressed for a leisurely 2 1/4 hours. With no sense at all that the staff wanted to hurry us along. All-in-all a very nice experience. -- Donald R. Newcomb * University of Southern Mississippi [email removed] * "The God who gave us life gave us liberty [email removed] * at the same time." T. Jefferson (1774) From [email removed] Sat Jan 28 12:29:30 1995 >Received: by mintir.new-orleans.la.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sat, 28 Jan 95 06:35:32 CST for Subject: Re: seeking advice for a trip to New Orleans Sender: NEW-ORLEANS Mailing List To: Reply-To: [email removed] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2581 >...................snip, snip > >>Now the fun part: restaurants. We love to go out to eat, and appreciate >quality restaurants in all price ranges. We've got 3 full days in New >Orleans; we want to eat the 3 best breakfast, lunches, and dinners possible. >Not the most expensive or elegant, but just the best food. We'd just like >to hear about your favorite places to eat. You know--the places you'd go to >first after you'd been out-of-town for a long time. Also, we'd like to get >recomendations for a place to go for that "complete New Orleans dining >experience"--the kind of places Ed refers to as the "Grand New Orleans >Restaurant". It'd also be helpful to know the general price ranges (say, >for an entree), and if special dress is required. For dinner I would suggest Mike's on the Avenue, Mr. B's and Emeril's. Mike's is on St. Charles Ave., 2 blocks off Poydras a short cab ride from the Quarter. Huge picture windows allow you to look out onto St. Charles. Food is excellent and expensive. Dress is casually elegant (or so I was told once by their staff). No coat/tie required. Although very "touristy" Mr. B's remains one of my favorites. Anything grilled here is execellent and check out their daily fresh fish specials. Dark wood interior along with a piano seranade during dinner creates a great atmosphere. Located in the Quarter on Royal, two or three off Canal. No coat/tie required but definitely call for reservations. Finally, Emerils in the Warehouse District a short ride from the Quarter. Again execellent food and atmosphere. Be sure and call for reservations. All the above are not for the faint in the pocketbook. Look to pay anywhere from $12-$18 per entree at all the above. >More practical matters: we'd like to know if we can get by without a rental >car. How much will it cost us to get from the airport to our hotel? What >kinds of public transportation are available--just street car and bus? Is it >practical to take public transportation to and from the airport? Is it >safe to take busses all around the city? Is it safe to walk around the Quarter >at all hours? Is there anything we'd want to see that isn't accessible by >public transportation? > I'll let Ray, the resident bugey man on the list handle the details on this one but, in general, numerous tourists visit and never drive a minute while they are here, particularly if they stay in the Quarter. >Thanks for your time, >Aaron Packman >[email removed] > After your visit, be sure and let us know how you enjoyed your visit.
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Mary F. wrote:
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: > > I'm suprising my wife with a 10th anniversary trip : > > and am looking for especially romantic restaurants with world class food. I'm : : Aren't you a sweetie pie!!! : : Antoine's Antoine's Antoine's
It's been a long time (25 yrs) since I was in New Orleans, but
Le Ruth's (on the West Bank) put Antoine's to shame for both
quality and service. I don't lknow whether or not it is still
there.Someone wrote: > > It's been a long time (25 yrs) since I was in New Orleans, but > Le Ruth's (on the West Bank) put Antoine's to shame for both > quality and service. I don't lknow whether or not it is still > there. > Yes, Le Ruth's put many a restaurant to shame. Unfortunately, the restaurant closed some years ago. There was a time when several local critics rated Le Ruth's at 5-star while only giving 4 stars to Antoine's, Arnaud's, and Commander's Palace. What was nice about Le Ruth's was that its west bank location kept it out of the mainstream tourist traffic, so it had a "local" feel. In any case, I second the recommendation of Antoine's. It's my favorite. Galatoire's is also excellent, but the atmosphere there is hustle-bustle, so it's not that appropriate for a "romantic" dinner.
For a great meal, I highly recommend The Grill Room at the
Windsor Court. It is pricey, but consistently excellent. (I had an absolutely incredible sea bass there a few weeks ago.) There is a private dining area somewhere off in the back, but I'm not sure it is available for couples.
The hotel itself is by far the best in the city. The suites,
like the meals, are expensive. The corner suites, or at least rms. 1717 and 1817, have kitchenettes, sitting-rooms, bedrooms, and baths. These two rooms have great views of the river. And they go for around 500 or 600 a night.
Another great restaurants is Peristyle, located on N. Rampart. If
you go there ask (repeatedly, if need be) for a table next to the bar, overlooking Dumaine(?) St. These four tables are usually reserved for the N.O. elite and traveling celebrities, so eating there is often entertaining. You get to observe the New Orleanians in their full glory. If you are unfamiliar with the Old New Orleans people, I recommend trying Peristyle out, just for the experience.
Of course, there is Antoine's. I know that you can get a private
room there, if you call in advance.
Other possibilities include:
Emeril's
Lanaux's
Mike's on the Avenue
and the list goes on.
If you have any specific questions about places to go here,
e-mail me or post. Chances are I been to the place at least once, or that I know someone who has.
EPSXdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. You ought to know that Kevin Graham, former chef at the Windsor Court, is now running his own restaurant on Magazine St. in the CBD, called Graham's. The Windsor Court is still spectacular, of course, as it ought to be given the price. I agree absolutely that Peristyle is a wonderful restaurant and would only add -- in the Quarter -- Bayona, Maximo's, and (occasionally) the G & E Courtyard Grill (the latter two on Decatur St. below the square, the first on Dauphine St. Outside the Quarter I'd try Gabrielle (up on Esplanade) and if that's too crowded try Lola's, just across the street, a funky -- slightly hip -- little place. Uptown is Brigtsen's, of course, and there's Emeril's (noisy but full of spectacle) and the old-school -- Antoine's Arnaud's and (my favorite) Galatoire's. I hope this helps -- this is my first posting, and as a local with a large appetite I couldn't resist. -- Roy Liuzza, Dept. of English, Tulane University, New Orleans.
Roy, How about recommending your namesake, Liuzza's in mid-city (Bienville down a few blocks from Carrolton). Sure it isn't romantic, but if you only do traditional romance, you miss some of the best parts (not to mention food) in the city. Plus, romance often hides behind some pretty funky costumes in NOLA! Kate [email removed]
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NOLA is an offshoot of Emeril's, a less-expensive place with a less-extensive menu; I haven't been in a while but I recall them going through a couple of incarnations before settling into their present state. It's noisy, like all of Emeril Lagasse's places (my theory is he's hard of hearing), but it's just across the street from the Napoleon House, which has some claim to being the best bar in the world. I remember them having fancy pizzas and lots of grilled-type things. I'm sure it's a good place, but I haven't seen it attracting the religiously-regular local crowds that places like Maximo's and Bayona and Peristyle have done.
As long as I'm blathering away, I should add Bella Luna (great
romantic view, good osso bucco), Anacapri (good value), Bacco (a Brennan's family restaurant), and DiPiazza's (a tiny place on Dauphine St.), which are good Italian places in the Quarter. My former favorite restaurant is L'Economie on Girod St., but they've changed hands recently and now serve lots of ostrich meat and odd things like that, so who knows?
still hungry,
Roy Liuzza.Roy L. wrote: > NOLA is an offshoot of Emeril's, a less-expensive place with a > less-extensive menu; I haven't been in a while but I recall them going > through a couple of incarnations before settling into their present > state. It's noisy, like all of Emeril Lagasse's places (my theory is > he's hard of hearing), but it's just across the street from the > Napoleon House, which has some claim to being the best bar in the > world. I remember them having fancy pizzas and lots of grilled-type > things. I'm sure it's a good place, but I haven't seen it attracting > the religiously-regular local crowds that places like Maximo's and > Bayona and Peristyle have done. > > As long as I'm blathering away, I should add Bella Luna (great > romantic view, good osso bucco), Anacapri (good value), Bacco (a > Brennan's family restaurant), and DiPiazza's (a tiny place on Dauphine > St.), which are good Italian places in the Quarter. My former favorite > restaurant is L'Economie on Girod St., but they've changed hands > recently and now serve lots of ostrich meat and odd things like that, > so who knows? > > still hungry, > Roy Liuzza. I have had the opportunity to eat twice at NOLA and quite bluntly... it was the best food that I have ever eaten. The service was top notch and both times it was a completely belt busting event. Barry Dunn -- Barry Dunn [email removed] From [email removed] Mon Feb 6 09:19:12 1995 >Received: by mintir.new-orleans.la.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sun, 05 Feb 95 22:28:36 CST for Subject: Shrimp Poboys/Mother's Sender: NEW-ORLEANS Mailing List To: Reply-To: NEW-ORLEANS Mailing List Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1550 >Haven't been to Praline Connection but think it would be a good >choice for lunch. The Praline Connection on St. Joseph is an excellent lunch choice. Huge portions of down-home cooking at a very reasonable price. I had the fried chicken last week, with a side of white beans. Very, very good. >For some reason (probably because my stomach is growling), I think one of >the lunches should include a fried oyster or shrimp poboy for which there >isn't a clear choice on your list. I liked the oyster poboys at College >Inn I had last Christmas, but am drawing a blank for a place that >would be more convenient. Perhaps Uglesich's (not the best area, but GREAT) >and not far from the streetcar line. If you're looking for a good shrimp poboy in the CBD, not far off the streetcar line, you can't do much better than Ernst Cafe on S. Peters at Lafayette. I work a block away and manage at least one a week. While we're on the subject of CBD lunches, fully aware that this will more than likely stir up trouble, I would not recommend Mother's. In the seven years that I've worked downtown, I've had more than a few meals there. In the last few years, however, it has become an expensive place to wait in line to get an OK meal. While I used to see a lot of business people in there, now all you see are tourists standing outside waiting to get in. Save your money, make better use of your time and go somewhere else, like the New City Diner, Ernst or the Bon Ton. All will give you equally good, if not better, food, at a more reasonable price. From [email removed] Tue Feb 7 23:18:23 1995 >Received: by mintir.new-orleans.la.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 07 Feb 95 09:15:05 CST for Subject: Re: Shrimp Poboys/Mother's Sender: NEW-ORLEANS Mailing List To: Reply-To: NEW-ORLEANS Mailing List Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2037 > If you're looking for a good shrimp poboy in the CBD, not far off the > streetcar line, you can't do much better than Ernst Cafe on S. Peters at > Lafayette. I work a block away and manage at least one a week. > While we're on the subject of CBD lunches, fully aware that this will more > than likely stir up trouble, I would not recommend Mother's. In the seven > years that I've worked downtown, I've had more than a few meals there. In the > last few years, however, it has become an expensive place to wait in line to > get an OK meal. While I used to see a lot of business people in there, now > all you see are tourists standing outside waiting to get in. Save your money, > make better use of your time and go somewhere else, like the New City Diner, > Ernst or the Bon Ton. All will give you equally good, if not better, food, at > a more reasonable price. I'll have to agree with the statement about Mother's. In the eight years I have been frequenting the NOLA area (Yes, in fact, I am relegated to being a tourist, although I never feel out-of-place...), the quality of Mother's has SHOT downhill. Most of the charm of eating at Mother's always was the fact that you WEREN'T in the middle of a pack of tourists, and the food, while not the most fabulous, was truly good. But, take away the charm, add a long line, and tack on just-OK food, and you've got a good reason to skip lunch. A bloody shame, if you ask me. Anybody here ever try the Avenue Pub? Been there a number of times, and I seem to remember they have the largest roast-beef poboy I'd ever seen. Not to mention a very friendly English barkeep. I think it's down near St. Charles and Terpsichore. Mark -- ====================================================================== Mark Justin Cecil || [email removed] Cray Systems Analyst || (205) 955-4777 (day) USASSDC Simulation Center, Huntsville, AL || (205) 536-3041 (night) ====================================================================== From [email removed] Wed Feb 8 00:16:08 1995 >Received: by mintir.new-orleans.la.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 07 Feb 95 10:05:14 CST for Subject: RE: more on a trip to New Orleans Sender: NEW-ORLEANS Mailing List To: Reply-To: NEW-ORLEANS Mailing List Content-Type: text Content-Length: 851 >I need help. A friend told me a Must Not Miss dining experience in N.O. >is Christian's, which is in an old converted church. Can anybody give me >comments, location, cuisine tips? mid-city area, a couple of blocks from the intersection of carollton and canal. one of my favorite restaurants. on bienville (i think) right behind the funeral home. it is in a converted church. good acoustics. owner Chris Ansel. mostly retired chef roland (huet?). forget who the main one is now. smoked softshell crab meniuere appetizer is righteous, but not for those with heart problems. last Christmas i od'd on meniuere by following that up with trout meniuere. also like their shrimp remoulade. they also have good beef. the stuffed fish is excellant. actually i've liked everything i've had there. good bread; good drinks. Shhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone. From [email removed] Wed Feb 8 22:17:32 1995 >Received: by mintir.new-orleans.la.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Wed, 08 Feb 95 18:10:11 CST Subject: Re: Shrimp Poboys/Mother's Sender: [email removed] To: , Reply-To: [email removed] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 728 >Nowadays, the only time I go to Mother's is when I'm with someone who's >usually from out-of-town (be they foreigner or expatriate) and they need a >fix. Given where I'm situated when I'm in the CBD, I have to walk past too >many other good places to eat to get to Mothers. I don't really do Mother's, however, last year when I stayed acroos the street form the place, Iate breakfast there every morning and was extremely satisfied. I would get a fried ham biscuit (huge slab of ham) coffee and oj for about $5.00. You can also get plain ham, debris, or other types. I don't remember what time it would go, but I never waited in line and don't think I would (or at maspero's). there ARE too many other good places to eat. From [email removed] Thu Feb 9 08:46:46 1995 >Received: by mintir.new-orleans.la.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 09 Feb 95 05:18:48 CST Subject: Re: Emeril's vs. Bayona Sender: [email removed] To: , Reply-To: [email removed] X-Sender: [email removed] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 1408 >What should we do, folks? These are our criteria: >1. Potential for romance (necessary for the parents of a two-year-old and a >one-month-old who don't get out much). Emeril's is noisy. It's in a renovated Warehouse District warehouse--exposed beams, pipes, etc. The kitchen is open to the dining room, with the "food bar" separating the two. This makes for an interesting atmosphere, but hardly romantic. Think of the Emeril's dining experience as the fine dining equivalent of a po-boy at Mother's. Bayona: 7 Emeril's: 4 > >2. Creativity and eclectic nature of ingredients and dishes. > Both are winners on this. You can't go wrong either way. Bayona: 8 Emeril's: 9 >3. Value (we love new and creative cuisine, but there's sort of a bare >minimum I expect in terms of quantity). > Again, both are winners on this. Bayona: 8 Emeril's: 8 >4.Dessert excellence (nuff said) > Emeril's, hands down. Mucy more creativity on the desserts. Bayona: 8 Emeril's: 10 It's situations like this that make it impossible to name one restaurant in town as "the best." |Edward J. Branley [email removed] |Moderator, New Orleans Mailing List.| |Yatcom Communications, New Orleans, LA|To join, send a message to: | |Visit VIRTUALLY NEW ORLEANS: |[email removed]| |http://yatcom.com/neworl/vno.html |with SUB NEW-ORLEANS in the body. | From [email removed] Thu Feb 9 11:10:32 1995 >Received: by mintir.new-orleans.la.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 09 Feb 95 08:06:29 CST Subject: Mother's - No Waiting Sender: [email removed] To: , Reply-To: [email removed] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 463 I've found that if you want to avoid waiting at Mother's for a debris po'boy or another of their specialties, that they have an outlet on the gambling boat at Riverwalk. It used to be called the Queen of New Orleans, but has been replaced by the Flamingo. I don't gamble, but found that I could go on a free trip on the river, and eat a Mother's po'boy at the same time - without waiting in line. 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The Napoleon House is, in my opinion, the greatest bar in the world. The
atmosphere is wonderful --- very dim, old, gold leaf peeling off the walls, quiet, excellent service. Order a Pimm's Cup - it's a house specialty. Although I've never eaten there, people tell me the food is great.
If you want to have a great date in New Orleans, especially if you're young
and don't have too much money, you should definately go to Mona Lisa pizzeria (I believe it's on the 1200 block of Royal) in the evening. The food is great, especially the garlic bread. Bring your own bottle of wine (there's a liquor store just across the street if you forget) -- you'll feel like a regular there. Have a wonderful dinner over candlelight in this quiet place. Take a slow stroll afterwards to the Napoleon House. Order several drinks; talk softly about serious things. You won't believe the feeling you'll get. She'll love you.
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While I was teaching in St. Bernard Parish, I was introduced for the first time to the truly great Ninth Ward neighborhood bars. Bud Rip's, an Irish place whose name escapes me, and the Saturn were all places we would hit once a month or so. The Saturn is simulataneously one of the scariest and best places I've ever been in my life. Bud Rip's is truly fantastic; the first time our group when there, Bud found out it was the birthday of one us us, and gave us all a round of drinks.
Any other memories/experiences/reviews out there?
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>George Gerhold mentioned a Mother's sandwich called a "debris
>po'boy".
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>In my (long gone) youth, I worked in Metarie at Hoppers and
>served many
>a "Poboy". I would be quite interested in learning more about
>the "debris po'boy".
"Debris" is (as mentioned already) the roast beef that falls off into the bottom of the pan when the slices of roast are put in a steam tray at the po-boy place. When you slice a roast, shavings crumble from the slices. Instead of throwing these away (or feeding them to the dog, as is done in lots of homes), a good po-boy place leaves them in the pan with the gravy. These smaller pieces of meat pick up the flavor of the gravy, the garlic, etc., and end up tasting better than the slices of beef you normally find on a po-boy.
The catch with a debris po-boy is that there aren't many places where you can get a good one, simply because there aren't a lot of places that still roast their own meat. The best debris po-boy is going to be one where the gravy is from the same roast as the meat.
>
>I haven't been to New Orleans for a few years. Tell me if the
>debris po'boy is worth
>the trip? Maybe we can find a way to make such culinary
>delights available to us poor
>boys in the northern part of New York State (Rocheter).
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Definitely. Next time you go to Mother's, ask for a ham po-boy with debris gravy. The Ferdi Special (a ham *and* roast beef po-boy) is a bit much for me, but the addition of debris and the beef gravy to the ham po-boy is just fantastic. In fact, that's Mother's platonic dish.
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Another great local watering hole is The River Shack. Located a few minutes upriver on riveroad from Carrolton Ave. It might look a bit intimidating from the outside (like a scene from Roadhouse or something might take place) but it is a great night spot. They also have a huge selection of beer.
Their ashtrays are also worth a visit.
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One more for the list, and a favorite of mine, is Vaughns (or does she spell it Vons?) WAY down on Dauphine, almost to Poland.
In season, they have all-you-can-eat crawfish fer $5...nice big ones too and cooked well. They throw a superb July the 4th party..somehow Charmene (sp?) Neville has a connection to this bar; she always shows up for the festivities & gives an impromptu short performance.
Anyway, it's a nice comfortable neighborhood bar.
Randy Burriss
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>Another great local watering hole is The River Shack. Located a few minutes
>upriver on riveroad from Carrolton Ave. It might look a bit intimidating
>from the outside (like a scene from Roadhouse or something might take place)
>but it is a great night spot. They also have a huge selection of beer.
> Their ashtrays are also worth a visit.
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Don't forget the more than decent food! :-)
YUM!
Louis..
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Ed,
You know I think your top ten lists are great, but when I got back on-line after a brief stint in the hospital and saw your list of top ten romantic restaurants, I thought I was still hallucinating from the morphine!
Crescent City Steak House?! Snug Harbor? Chart House Honorable Mention?
C'mon! IMO half the restaurants in New Orleans INCLUDING for god's sake even Galatoire's, which is loud enough that you can say anything and not be overhead, not to mention Commander's, Arnaud's, Bistro at Maison de Ville, Bayona. Heck, Mosca's is more romantic than some on your list.
Ed, Ed, you need a Romantic Check!
--Lan Sluder