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5 BEST RESTAURANTS IN S. F?

4 posts · Dec 20, 1997 to Dec 24, 1997

Jack H.Copyright (c) 1997 by Jack HamiltonDec 20, 1997
Han K. wrote:

>Hi!
>
>IF YOU ARE TO PICK 5 BEST  RESTAURANTS AMONG ALL
>THE RESTAUANTS IN S.F. , WHICH ONES WOULD YOU PICK?
>
>HAN

This isn't 5, but:

 La Folie        the quail stuffed with foie gras as the best single
                 dish I've ever had; Zagat's #1 ranking in food.

 Slanted Door    really as much French as Vietnamese

 Boulevard

 Pacific         In the Pan Pacific Hotel near Union Square.  I
                 don't understand why this place isn't packed.
                 You could probably walk in at 8pm on a Saturday
                 and get a table.

 ?               Catalan restaurant across from Moscone Center;
                 also not very busy.  It's across the street from
                 Max's or Mel's, whatever that diner is.

Other places which are very good, but not in the top rank for overall dining experience.  These are places I'm happy to go to.

 Scala's Bistro   good food, but noisy, and the table is never
                  ready when they say it will be

 Zuni             good food, more informal than you are probably
                  looking for

 Woodward's       ditto.
 Garden.

Places which other people like, but I wouldn't bother with:

 Hawthorne Lane    Food is good, but very expensive for what
                   you get, and it was one of the noisiest
                   places I've ever eaten.  I would not go there
                   again unless I had reason to think it would
                   be empty and therefore not so deafening.

 Val 21

 Flying Saucer     I haven't eaten there, but the reports of bad
                   are so frequent, both in this newsgroup and from
                   people I know, that I'm not willing to risk it.

Places I'd like to try:

 Ritz-Carleton

 Masa's

 Campton Place
David G.Dec 20, 1997
Jack H. wrote:

>  Slanted Door    really as much French as Vietnamese
>

I don't understand the "to do" about this place. I've eaten there three times. It's OK, but IMO Le Cheval in Oakland and Emerald Garden in SF both do *a lot* better.

>  Flying Saucer     I haven't eaten there, but the reports of bad
>                    are so frequent, both in this newsgroup and from
>                    people I know, that I'm not willing to risk it.
>

Thanks for your "contempt prior to investigation." I've had exceptional food there on two occasions, so-so on a third. I'd go back.

My five favorites (not "the best" as I haven't tried all the restaurants in SF - yet!):

Firefly
Fringale
Masa's
Laghi
Swan Oyster Depot

That's my two cents worth.
JCDillConcentric Internet ServicesDec 22, 1997
On 22 Dec 1997 01:21:37 GMT, in ba.food, [email removed] (Sean Yamamoto) shaped the electrons to say:

>	Masa's

>The service _must_ be impeccable or it doesn't qualify. There are dozens
>of restaurants that pump out great food but whose service absolutely sucks.

The one and only time I went to Masa's I was VERY disappointed in the "service".  The table next to us lit up a cigar and even after mentioning it to our waiter (who had delivered an ash tray to that table!) we were still subject to the cigar smoke for another 10 minutes until I took it upon myself to find the manager and complain again at which time they offered to move US to a different table!  (In the same room even, only a few feet further away.)

Coddling one set of customers (those that want to smoke regardless of the law in a section that is clearly non-smoking) at the expense of another is BAD service.
VashonButtface Appreciation SocietyDec 24, 1997
Someone wrote:

> Jack H. wrote:

>
> My five favorites (not "the best" as I haven't tried all the
> restaurants in SF - yet!):
>
> Firefly
> Fringale
> Masa's
> Laghi
> Swan Oyster Depot

Oh man. Swan's is amazing. Makes me weak in the knees just to think about their oysters and clams on the half-shell, accompanied by some thick chowder and tart sourdough dipped in olive oil. MMmmm.

Plus, it's in my 'hood.

Cheers,

stan
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